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Rio + 392Manny
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Buckle up and get ready for a wild ride; an episode that takes you from the early days of the 312 crew to the chaos and camaraderie permeating the current car culture. As your hosts, Hood Florist and Jenny, we invite you to join us alongside Rio and 392Manny, as we traverse through the controversial split of the 312 crew and Lil Bobby, the monetary pursuit-induced decline of the car scene, and our favorite memories from car meets. As we skirt around the pitfalls of unresolved beef and accountability within the community, we keep the vibes light-hearted and humorous.
Taking a closer look at the changes in the car scene, we draw on the experiences of Rio and 392Manny to unravel the complexities of this subculture. From the heady days of takeover meets to the influence of Strictly Sideways, we offer first-hand accounts of the scene's evolution. We'll discuss the impact of money-driven motivations and the shift toward chaos, but it's not all doom and gloom; we'll also touch on camaraderie, unity, and some downright hilarious stories from car meets.
As we shift gears to more serious topics, we tackle issues of unresolved beef within the car scene and highlight the importance of accountability for preserving unity. And of course, no episode is complete without a dive into car swinging and some light-hearted banter about appearances and possible family ties. So, if you're keen to hear about all things car culture, including Mexican holiday car meets, don't hit the brakes just yet; we've got plenty more to share. This episode is packed with passion, humor, and a whole lot of love for cars. Don't miss out; stick with us for this enlightening journey through the world of car enthusiasts and crews.
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Speaker 2Yo yo yo, it's your boy, the Hood Floors and y'all tuning in to the motherfucking rollback show. We got some motherfucking OG OGs in this. Motherfucking it's crazy Yo.
Speaker 3Yo, how y'all feeling.
Speaker 1Y'all already know it's 312Brio back in the day.
Speaker 2Back in the day is crazy, y'all. My co-host, jenny here.
Speaker 4That's me.
Speaker 1And we got.
Speaker 3SRT Manny in the cut.
Speaker 1SRT Whamification dude. I had to bring him on the show you already know.
Speaker 4That's crazy Wham wham, wham, whamification.
Speaker 1Nice, he brings the power.
Speaker 2Wham, wham, wham. Ok, wham, wham, wham. Man we finna get right into this shit, man, because I got a question. I actually got a lot of questions. I've been waiting on this shit.
Speaker 1I'm ready for all of them. Dude, I'm here. I've been waiting on this shit. Man, I've been locked in too. I'm ready.
Speaker 2I'm going to start with the first one, and the first one is going to sound crazy with me saying it, but that's how it was brought to me, so that's how I'm going to keep my question. All right, I'm ready for it. Why y'all steal the motherfucking 312 crew from Bobby?
Speaker 1That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2Not Lil Bobby.
Speaker 1Lil Bobby. So to keep it to where we're not getting too detailed and too much into personal context you know what I'm saying Because I don't want to say stuff that he might not want to say so we had disagreements with what we wanted to go further with in the crew. He wanted to go more towards what's kind of happening now. So I could say he had a good idea of what to do going forward because of how shit ended up now. But at the time, dude, the takeovers were going crazy. We were just having fun. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I really wasn't trying to make it like a business, like the side money was cool, letting people wrap our merch, seeing that kind of shit, that shit's cool. But I was doing it for just a crew. I wanted friends to drive my cars around with the crews with you know what I'm saying, pull up to meet with you don't. But he wanted them to do more like the drift style, more like the park and show kind of meets. You know what I'm saying. So we kind of were disagreeing with that, you know. So it was just more of like I guess, instead of arguing you know what I'm saying We'll just go our separate ways. He didn't want to like keep arguing and keep going, because even the people in the group said all the crew members they really weren't agreeing. They were more like on my side, so they wanted to keep doing the takeovers. You know Because we were lit, it was lit Exactly.
Speaker 1It was smooth. It wasn't like how it is now to where the shit's getting popped right away. It was like, dude, we'd be at like four cities for like an hour. Four city, two hours, dude Chill it.
Speaker 3Man, we're like man, we're the next block man I'm bored bro Cameras going everywhere.
Speaker 1We had the sounds busting dude Like you'll hear that shit two blocks down. The cops will be chilling across the street not doing jack shit.
Speaker 3We'll be chilling Hummer outside Because you know we were being respectful at the time.
Speaker 1We were there for the cars, we weren't there fucking kicking shit, throwing shit around Like we were doing fireworks and shit.
Speaker 2Tell them again, we was there for the cars. Yeah, exactly True, car and buzzi. Now you got everybody like shooting.
Speaker 1We were there banging and shite-stees, bro Like we were there just having fun, like throwing our cars around. You know, getting each other lit, Everybody would be in a circle. You know, it's how it is kind of now, but it's just more like people are like bringing negative energy towards it. It was like more positive energy, more people like like.
Speaker 2It was more love For the right reasons.
Speaker 1I feel like it was more love, exactly.
Speaker 1And then, as it started getting a little like fucked up, you kind of seen like how he could have been right and going towards that kind of direction.
Speaker 1But I just felt like when we were butting heads it kind of just like you know, we kind of just separated from that and I mean, you know, if it was really like that big of a deal, you know like, if it was like that big of a disagreement, people would have went towards like that side, but I mean 312 kind of remains, 312 at the end of that. So I mean, everything was the same until shit kind of just took a twist. Like shit took a big twist and like I'd say, like March of 2022. I'd say, like you know, the scene got a little shaken up because that's when, strictly, sideways came, yeah, and that's when, like the scene never seen nothing like that before. It was like like, kind of like Kelly, we were kind of switching up to that vibe, you know, to where another crew was coming along, because we were kind of like the only crew 312 was the original.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly, everybody was riding at 312 on brother at one point.
Speaker 1So like I'm going to start off from like the beginning, I'm going to track back to the beginning and give you guys like how it started out, how the meets kind of started getting crazy. So like I seen TJ and I seen who was a Jonas and fucking, fucking, what's his name, motherfucker.
Speaker 3Illinois.
Speaker 1Car Meets Illinois Car Meets.
Speaker 3Let's do with the.
Speaker 1Tesla, I don't know. I call people by their name, you know I don't go by IGs, bro. You see what? I'm saying he's always got a nice, but that's how it was.
Speaker 2That's how it was, yeah yeah. Y'all talking about Zeith.
Speaker 1Zeith, yeah, zeith Society yeah, it was basically them three doing shit at the time and I seen they were bringing shit. And I'm from here, like I'm from Bridgeport. I lived on 26 in Union my whole life. 26 in Lowe. I lived fucking around the block, I moved. I stayed in. Bridgeport. You know, I'm from Bridgeport, I'm Italian, so relax.
Speaker 2We might be cousins, maybe, hopefully.
Speaker 3I'm a little Italian, you already know.
Speaker 1You already know that's my cousin over there. So fucking you know, I seen they were over here Because I had a buddy. My buddy named Sebastian Grotto. He's real cool. He does a lot of shit in Miami. He does a lot of shit with cars.
Speaker 2You drop the whole government. Don't drop whole government.
Speaker 1He's fine, he does business. He's a businessman like me, ok, so he probably want his name out there.
Speaker 4But what's, it?
Speaker 1called. He just started bringing me around the meats Because he had a BMW at the time and that's how I got on the BMWs.
Speaker 1So he was bringing me around the meats. But that's when, like, what's this guy's name? It's like Chris Carmichael, something like that. Some guy from here named Chris and he had a blue Corvette and a blue GTR at the time. And that's when that's like the biggest meat Mariano's has ever seen. And that was in like I think like 2017, dude, like it was a long fucking time ago. Ok, so then when I got my license, I got my license November of 2017.
Speaker 1So that was like after that summer, so I was driving myself to the meats and that's how I got involved in the meats over here and that's how I started meeting like heartless rags the society fucking.
Speaker 4So you've been in the scene since 2017.
Speaker 1Yes, because I live right over here. So I've been fucking just driving past it and I'd be like what the fuck? That should look sick. Let's pop over there with me and my boys so we'll just go look around. Because I've always liked cars my, actually. My uncle has a garage over on Bridgeport. He does body work and shit, so I've been around cars my whole life. I've been riding like little fucking dirt bikes ever since I was like eight years old.
Speaker 2So yeah, it's an Italian thing. Because, my uncle and them had every motherfucking toy you could fucking think of. I had the time of my life. They lived in Palos Heights. And under with 10 acres of land. Imagine riding. Atvs and fucking four wheelers.
Speaker 4Yeah, hell yeah, it's crazy. It's not about it, it's mad Spicks over there. I said Space.
Speaker 3you're crazy, I was like yo.
Speaker 2That's not happening. You just wanted him to be racist.
Speaker 1I'm saying she wants to start something.
Speaker 4That's what I heard. That's why I was like hey, he's always looking for trouble. I swear to God. Oh yeah, I swear to God. The trouble's not over he part of the Latin community, though, yeah fact. So, it ain't really racism, right, right.
Speaker 2I mean he technically has all four fucking Browns in him. Yeah.
Speaker 4He's good to go. That man is 50 shades of brown. He's ready to go for anything.
Speaker 3Crazy. It's good, though it's good knowing both languages as well, so you ain't never know. Because I definitely had some people talk shit in Spanish behind my back, but little did they know. I understand exactly what they say, so I'll respond to them in Spanish. And they just drop yeah, and they'll just be like oh, like, damn, my bad.
Speaker 4That's how much.
Speaker 1I'm talking about. I don't want to get off track or nothing, but when we were in Texas, dude, I went to a Vavaline for the first time ever and I didn't know. They have a curb at the end of where you get your oil change done and my G8's fucking very low to the ground. The suspension's gone. So slam yeah. So I go to go out of this place. My muffler gets fucking chopped in half by this curb.
Speaker 3Motherfucker, it sounds like a taut, a rammer going down the block insane.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly. So then there's no shop that'll help us, except this one shop that's all the way down deep like South Austin and it's all Mexican guys and kids in there.
Speaker 3Not a lick of English.
Speaker 1No English.
Speaker 3No English, a lick of English Real over here like bro man. You got to hit me off Like man, he go in there.
Speaker 1He saved a day. We got like 50% off because we were just here and he was like you know, we just got this car. We're having a little bit of trouble with it, you know.
Speaker 3Man, that's sweet talk.
Speaker 1And they threw us a discount and everything it was love, all because you know it's always good to have somebody who knows a different language.
Speaker 2That's why Jenny is with me everywhere I go Exactly.
Speaker 4Because how the man got a shopping pilsen.
Speaker 2But King's speak a lick of Spanish, he can order his tacos in Spanish, though trust oh, me too.
Speaker 3What's your taco order? What you get.
Speaker 2We not finna. Do this right now.
Speaker 4No hey, hey, hey. Tell him what your name is in Spanish.
Speaker 2El Florista del.
Speaker 4Barrio. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1You tell that to a little mommy. She's going to curl her toes for you oh.
Speaker 4I bet, hey, we taught him how to say that he's trying to fucking Spanish, but we don't know if he's used to yet.
Speaker 1Don't curl her toes and start shaking ass for you 100%.
Speaker 4And make your tacos.
Speaker 1In the morning dude, a little fucking. What is that Fucking?
Speaker 3Teresa with eggs.
Speaker 2Oh, my God, Teresa with eggs yeah the Teresa yeah.
Speaker 3You get some frijoles, tortillas and chillin' bro.
Speaker 2Oh God, With the chile sauce.
Speaker 3Yeah. What you get Green or red. Give me green Facts. You already know how to get on that ass.
Speaker 4Right, give me green. Hey, whenever we get tacos, I'm going to be like give me the green sauce. And he's like no, I want the green. We be damning your boxing over that shit. All right, run it back though. So back to the Bobby and Rio. Let's kill the, whose idea was 312.
Speaker 1OK, so obviously it was my idea. I stated this plenty times before. It was my idea. I stated this plenty times before to many people. What's it called? My mom actually came up with the name 312 crew because I was in my basement and I did graphic design class in high school. I was a junior at the time and I was just trying to come up with shit because I wanted to create a crew. I was just getting the cars, I just got my license, I just got my car and I just got back from a car meet. Actually, when I created this Like when I created the little sketch, the 312 in cursive I went upstairs and I had the iPad in my hand. I was just like my what should I name? I want to do something like a crew that has to do with Chicago. And she just did 312 crew. That was the first name. She said too Shout out, Mama Rio.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying. So I was just like fuck it. I came up with the little sketch, the little cursive little thing in Fetano or whatever the fuck it's called little iPad app, and I just me and little Bobby G printed on shirts Because I came up. I was trying to because me and him we went to the same high school and he was getting in the cars too, so I was like putting him on with stuff. He just got a BMW at the time but he couldn't drive.
Speaker 1So I was like yeah, I was like helping him out with shit, and you know, he was like, he was like my little guy at the time. You know what I'm saying, my little brother Yo underling. No, no, no, my little dude. He was my little dude.
Speaker 2That's my little guy at the time. Hey, the funniest part of it is so, since we on the topic of little dude, like, the first time I met him and Smurf was at Ford City, but I would shitface drunk.
Speaker 1I'm always shitfaced at Ford.
Speaker 2Man, I shit you to fuck, not. So I had this idea of Smurf looking like a little white kid all this time until me and Smurf really locked in.
Speaker 1Yeah and now Smurf ain't no white boy.
Speaker 2So Smurf pulled up on me. I'm expecting this little midget white kid to look like Macaulay Coken to motherfucking pop up. And it's a midget Mexican. I'm like what, Wait, where are you? Where did you come from? It's not Smurf, but whole time.
Speaker 1Rest in peace.
The Story Behind Bobby's Departure
Speaker 2Mike man bro, yeah, rest in peace to Smurf but whole time it was Bobby. Somebody showed me a picture of Bobby and I was like oh, that's the white kid.
Speaker 1I thought was Smurf. Yeah, I'll give Bobby his privacy. He been in the scene for a while. He did help me out a lot with the crew and everything like what merch and stuff.
Speaker 2OK.
Speaker 1But at the end of the day we didn't actually agree on what we wanted to do.
Speaker 2And sometimes you got to separate. When it comes to that, I don't understand that Exactly.
Speaker 4So a lot of people want to know, then, why did you kick Bobby out of his own crew?
Speaker 1Out of his own crew is kind of crazy.
Speaker 4That's how everybody worried him man. The amount of people that have hopped on here and talked about it like that. And they say oh yeah, that they kicked Bobby out of his own crew.
Speaker 1So I mean I guess you could say it was his own crew. I don't know, I was doing a majority of the work. He was just basically doing sales, I guess, at the end of the day, and he would help me here and there because we'd be chilling and he'd give me little tips and shit.
Speaker 2But is it true that Bobby had the pool with the motherfuckers with the cars? Because that's what everybody keep telling me. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1I really just stopped trying, if I'm going to be honest, like if I really wanted to, I could have got it done at the end of the day. But, bobby G, we had what we like, our points.
Speaker 2Y'all was like yin and yang all the time yeah we had our points on what to do.
Speaker 1So what you could basically say was I was the background. He was the person doing the sales, selling the shit at the meets and bringing the people in. He was smooth with his words and I don't really like getting all up in people's business and shit. I'm not going to go over there and beg some guy to be in my crew. It's like I'll ask you like yo, I fuck with your whip. You don't Like what's up, you don't. I get a couple people, but Bobby, did he pull it in Most of the cars? I'll say that OK, but yeah, at the end of the day it was like a yin and yang thing.
Speaker 4Each of y'all had your own part. Y'all fell into each other. We did.
Speaker 1We did both of like, like you said, bro. You said it the best, it was yin and yang.
Speaker 2Yeah y'all, had y'all pulling things out.
Speaker 1Yeah, y'all did, but sometimes it would be like a meet Like he would run it, but like majority of the meets I would run. That's like. That's the thing. Like I was running the meets, I was getting the spots because I lived right here. That's how majority of the spots came about. Like me and TJ Heartless Rags.
Speaker 2TJ Cool, yeah, yeah, that ain't his government.
Speaker 1So what's it called? We always, we met up at Lumber for like fucking a week straight. We were at Lumber spinning it a week straight and that's before like Lumber really got popped. Got popped Because we were right here under the bridge for a long time. Yin and yang yin and yang yin and yang yes bro.
Speaker 1I dropped that spot because I seen a spot in Cali under a bridge and I was like this spot is supposed to be under the bridge but nobody did it under the bridge. It was like underneath the highway in that little spot. Nobody did it under the bridge. So I was like whatever.
Speaker 4But I mean we got the spot, Liz, Because the first time, because I remember I had dropped union but you told me to drop you.
Speaker 1Yeah, because I went to the spot I was trying to find this addy for so fucking long and I was like, fucking, I'm going to just like Google Maps, it real quick, like do the little pin. And I just pulled up to it and I pinned it and I was like fuck, everybody's slide yeah.
Speaker 4And I sent it to her.
Speaker 1And then you know the one spot by the shell yeah, not the shell, like intersection, but underneath the highway. Yeah, I dropped that spot, I go. I don't realize that, I don't real, for that spot.
Speaker 3That's a real good spot. Yeah, that spot. That's why he had that the first time we were there fucking plumb, crazy snow went nuts.
Speaker 1I missed that motherfucker dude.
Speaker 2Don't worry.
Speaker 4He'll be on the show, Crazy, before we had Union we had Ozinga. Ozinga, and that was literally that little small ass slit, that slick ass road right there in front of Ozinga. That was Ozinga, and then we moved it to Union and then after Union.
Speaker 1Now we have Lumber Biggest fuck in Lumber, literally. Yeah, lumber will forever just stay Lumber.
Speaker 4It's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2Don't nobody want to block. There's so many ways for the cops to get in.
Speaker 6It was great while everybody was. If you don't block it off properly, you won't be able to hold it at all.
Speaker 1You want to pay $110 ticket, bro? I ain't doing that shit.
Speaker 2I mean shit, hey, listen.
Speaker 1Man, you think the motherfuckers, the drunk bitch inside their Chevy cruise is going to fucking wreck our cars.
Speaker 4Hey, what you got again Chevy cruise my fault.
Speaker 2Hey, check it out. No bullshit, If you want to be outside seeing motherfucking swing, you got to. Just the risk you take Well, yeah, no, 100% this either you going to get out here and be a part of the community to keep this shit alive, or you're not.
Speaker 1No, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people aren't about it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2And that's why we moving legal, because they're not going to come to legal bids.
Speaker 1No, I don't know.
Speaker 2Period.
Speaker 1So what I really wasn't a part of, if I'm to be honest, is a lot of the overstate shit, the out of state shit. The only one I was here for was Minnesota, and the one where it was everybody the first time that was the only thing Chicago was everybody. But I didn't do nothing with it, I was just chilling watching it, so I got a question about that.
Speaker 2I fuck with that shit, though. I got a question about that because at the time you was playing the back and Snow was the face of 312 at that time, as far as like.
Speaker 1Because during that time I was going through a lot of legal shit myself. I was going through a felony case, like a class 4 felony case, so I really had to stay low. I couldn't get in trouble. I lost my license, my car was fucked up for all that time and I was working on my BMW at the time. So I was really just trying to stay out of trouble and I'd pop out with my friends, but I really wasn't like oh shit.
Speaker 4Yeah, because I really couldn't. I was just stuck in the house and work. That was towards the end.
Speaker 1No, that was like when Strictly sideways.
Speaker 4That was like that 2022, like the very end of 2021.
Speaker 1So that was like the winter of like 21 going into 22. And then when Strictly sideways came out is when I started getting back into it because I was out of all that shit and I was ready to go.
Speaker 1So that's why I kind of took my spot back. And then when Strictly sideways came about, they were kind of doing their thing and they were arguing and shit. I'm not a little kid, I'm not going to argue. You know what I'm saying. If you guys want to swing, you swing. You know what I mean. It's all for the cars. I'm not going to sit here and fucking bitch at you on the phone, dude, like what? What are you going to do? Stick a gun in my face? Good for you, bro. You want to fucking handshake? Good for you, bro. I don't care. It's all about the cars. Like I said, that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 1I'm not going to sit there and fucking text on my phone. I got fucking work all day. I got two fucking stories to run and I got a business to run. I got no time to fucking argue with somebody at all.
Speaker 2For sure, and so my question was, though like when you walked away, jenny, don't you start with me? I was trying to find the right way to write this, because I love snow and I don't want to piss her off Is there? When you walked away, was there no other option for a successor? A successor?
Speaker 1What do you mean? Like was there no other choice? Yeah, Damn, you're slurping at her hardest fucking mic. Because the ice is stuck my fault.
Speaker 2Or was snow the best option?
Speaker 1So, yeah, I mean that is kind of like a hard, that's a hard question. I'm not going to lie Because I don't know. It kind of just came like she was doing a lot of like the right things, if I'm going to be honest, like she was doing good things for the crew, if I could be 100% honest because I wanted to go into like a fundraising route once I was done with my bullshit, yeah, like I want to do like how we did that Santa Claus shit, yeah.
Speaker 3It's never that important.
Speaker 2That's funny because Pops pulled up in the Santa Claus outfit. Yeah, I seen that. That shit was so lit.
Speaker 1I love Pops. That's my motherfucking guy. I fucking love him.
Speaker 1He's the reason why I got my construction company right now. I love him. That's what's up. I love him. But, like I was saying what's it called? I was going in the fundraising route and she had the same ideas as I had. So I really think, I really just think we were matching ideas. So I just kind of like let it flow, you know, because it was flowing good, she was doing a good shit. So at the end of the day, like we were kind of like agreeing so, it was going down the right path.
Speaker 1and then she kind of went away for a little bit and then I was just done, because I was like fuck this, like it was going down the wrong path. You know everybody. It was just like at the end of the day it kind of just felt like not like a fucking, I felt like a free for all dude, like I had no say into my own crew. You know what I'm saying. So it was just like fuck this, I'm done.
Speaker 2So how did you, how did you lose, say in the crew? What do you think transpired to make that happen?
Speaker 1So, like a lot of it was just like arguing. It was just arguing every day Like I'm not. I'm not here to babysit. This isn't like a place where you guys come to see here and argue all day. I'm good, dude, I'm not going to sit here and listen to this. People would just be blowing my shit up all day. Like I'm not here to be your father. I'm not here to like tell you what to do. That's why you're here. You're here to do that. You know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, I was just tired of the bullshit. It was like. It was just like, like I said, it was a free for all. It was a mess. I was just not like. It wasn't what it was before, because what it was before is everybody respected each other, everybody had like the same vision. Everybody was there for the cars, everybody was having fun. We were all just like. Like it was supposed to be a big family. We were all just no cloud involved.
Speaker 1Exactly that's when it got all fucked up, when motherfuckers realized they can get their views up from all this bullshit.
The Chaos of Playing Both Sides
Speaker 2They were just here and using people at the end of the day. So no bullshit. I love snow and everything has no due because she do. She offers me a lot of help with the rollback showing shit and I appreciate her for it. But what I noticed? She plays the middle a lot and that creates chaos.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, definitely yeah, 100%. So like I got none against no, I got none against nobody.
Speaker 2Nobody.
Speaker 1Yeah, nobody I could really like I said, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2And her creating her playing the middle is because she is a woman in a primarily manned sport. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And she hasn't figured out how she can have her cake, and eat it too, without playing both sides.
Speaker 1So, like she did create a lot of controversy I'm not going to lie without the crew Like a lot of people weren't really agreeing with her being a part of it. A lot of people weren't really agreeing on, like what she was doing. But like.
Speaker 2I know it was just like Zuzu let his let his hair down when he came, but that's really how it is here.
Speaker 4Like you said, being a woman in primarily male environment, that's how it is. I used to get so much fucking shit when I was here. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1But I mean, it's just kind of how it is at the end of the day, you just kind of got a. So how I was trying to go about it At first, like I said, it was just people that I wanted to go to like car meets with. It was just like people I wanted to have friends that had the same interests as me, you know, in cars, and pull up to the meets. You know I wanted to pull up like fast and furious, all crazy and shit, you know. So that's how, like I had, I really wanted to do that, and then it just kind of trickled down this fucking fuck fest. You know it's just a fuck fest from the honest.
Speaker 1But at first, like I said, it was all fun. And then it got to the point where I was like all right, we're big enough to go like official, like we're big enough to really like do this, like dude. We're at like 12,000 followers, 10,000 followers. We're like takeovers in Chicago really weren't crazy. It was just because we had we really had good content. Like we had people making great fucking content for us, so when we would release it, it would give views, you know.
Speaker 3You got people, like on the GTA servers, trying to recreate.
Speaker 1Yeah, like, yeah, like dude, I would play this video game server, like it's called Pro Street Takeovers. It was an OG takeover server on 5M back when, like I was a part of the takeovers, I'd pull up in there and people would know, like my 312 car, people would know my name like all throughout, like the fucking the whole game, because that was just people in the takeover. So that really boosted it.
Speaker 3So, just like how people in the takeover know who you are, they know your car like in the game. Yeah, it's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 4I remember when that shit blew up and y'all would be like they'd be like oh, everybody, hop on, there's the fucking GTA.
Speaker 3It's a meet and buy.
Speaker 1Everybody be on 4S as well, so like dude, the takeover, the scene was just like, just like everybody was connected, basically like I would pull up and I would know everybody in the circle. Now I pull up, bro. It's people with shitey mask on people trying to be on bullshit. I don't know, nobody is crazy, but like, yeah, it's just, it's just not the same. No, it's not.
Speaker 4So I always asked people this questions when do you think? My question was that where do you guys think, like, if you could pinpoint something that led to, like the downfall of the car scene, what would you pinpoint it on?
Downfall of Car Culture in Chicago
Speaker 1Oh, 100%. When people realize that they can like or not realize. But when they thought they can get fucking like bread from this shit, bro, like this shit's real life a hobby. This shit's for fun, dude. If I'm gonna be honest, you can make money from it, but you got to you your personal self got to take a serious, you know. You got to like make videos. You got to try to get sponsors.
Speaker 4You got to you got to make your car representable, you know when you say money for me, you're just talking about like money off content, like they trying to be. You can do money off content taking shit legal, because those are two whole. You could do.
Speaker 1Basically, you do anything, dude. You could take it to the race track. You take it to anywhere that has money involved. Bro, you can go and fucking race in the back of the fucking Doty you can go to Doty. You can go in the back of a trailer park fucking.
Speaker 4So you think that's one shit.
Speaker 1Downplayed, though, when people thought they could make out of it just like when people realize that they can clout and when they like they wanted to get their name too much out there. That's when, like, fucking 10 hundred hosts came out, fucking two Eddie's meat would come out you go like it was like a fight dude is like a fucking tug of war. Yeah, it was like three different crews, four different crews next week it's 10 different crews.
Speaker 1But see, that's the thing, though, like I'm from Chicago, car culture and you could like outside of the takeoff like car culture yeah, yeah like we've always been in the city that had multiple crews, 100% there's a road over and humbled that has signs to where you can't be, like cruising up and down that street because they would have low riders over there all the time back over in the day but what I was saying, like what I think happened, and this is just my honest opinion.
Speaker 2Well, fucking start intermingling and and and started getting money together on some street shit outside of the takeovers and they fucking each other over yeah, shit created a lot of that.
Speaker 1Started happening like 22 yeah, probably like like March to about like under 22. It still happens now. Yeah, it's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 4So what I like pinpointed on is the loss of respect for crews. I feel like that was a huge downfall in the scene, because back, throw it back 2021. It was like you hosted Friday, me and TJ hosted Saturday, and then Sunday was like luxury yeah, it was all the same spot and she was cool, she was straight, you know, and it was like and if it was a competition, it was like oh what day was the best?
Speaker 4me type shit so that yeah, not like hey, let's compete and see who can get the most people at their meat. Let's host the same night and see who can overpower. You know, I'm saying because obviously the ones with the most followers is fun to get that you know, it's crazy followers ain't two, three months prior to that, we were all doing the same thing and there was no problem.
Speaker 1There's, not a single problem but I'm here there's not a single problem. We were all doing it like the same, like when we were just all doing it having fun, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4Like that compared to now. I feel like I mean, I don't pop out as often, but I feel like now it's more like let's compete as in who gets the most people at their meats type shit. Like well, our back then it used to be like everybody just pull up separate days, every separate days, like you hosted.
Speaker 4We were literally talk about that in the chats all the time like okay, three, one, two hosts Friday, me and me and Heartless Rags we host Saturday, and then we'll give Sunday to luxury. You know, I'm saying it was all cool because everybody had their own day to focus on. Now I feel like it's like three hope, three hosts, crews trying to host on the same night and it gives just everybody bullshit.
Speaker 4And then people get praised because oh, why are you hosting when I'm hosting? Like I just feel like that respect that we had because we was all cool. You know, I'm saying we was all kicking it, like at the car meets, all three crew host or whatever. We'd all be kicking at the same spot, talking to everybody like, oh yo, this is a nice spot, like that you just dropped.
Speaker 4I might have to use that next week. You know, I'm saying like we was in between our host, in between crews, like we was all talking about it, we was all sitting down, and like we had so many days that me and you would sit down and we would be like a man, like, let's get these addies together for 30 of this weekend yeah, that is, we'd be sitting there with a fucking iPad at the fucking lab and just fucking literally pinpointing spots and we was like, okay, you use this spot on this day, we'll use this spot on that day, and I feel like that.
Speaker 4That, um, what's, what's the word?
Speaker 1I'm looking for that's when it was more just that troll, that's more in order. Now it's just like last car meet I popped out to, it was three fucking. There was three addies. It was like yeah, fuck but they were all busting. I'll say that they were all busting, but it was three addies. I'm like dude. If we were all at one spot, it would be absolutely insane.
Speaker 1That's the crazy thing, and that's why I feel like they're just competing as an exactly who can get most people at the different addie, but it's like that's ridiculous and we should all be one at the end of the night the one person dude, the one motherfucker didn't even drive a car to the meet, so I don't know why he was hosting, but it's beyond me.
Speaker 2Hey, don't be talking shit about my son. He didn't drive his car to the meets, but he had his.
Speaker 4He had a car hey, I wasn't dropping my car to the meet, see them so what?
Speaker 1I'm saying is like buddy was trying to get cloud off the meets but like didn't like partake in the meets. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, I forgot his name, but all I know it was some dude in a shiesty mask and a loudspeaker yelling at motherfuckers and I was like oh, he's talking about your son.
Speaker 3I'm talking about your son, I don't think.
Speaker 1I'm talking about your son, but not, not Wal-Mart vest, not Wal-Mart vest. Wal-mart vest is fucking. He's sick as fuck, wally, yeah, nah, I don't think he's talking about my son.
Speaker 2He's talking about my son.
Speaker 1It was not it was one person, cuz after that day everybody was talking shit about this meet so I wasn't like tripping. I ain't no telling if it was. It's not a person that I really know who's involved.
Speaker 2So I think he kind of stopped at first. At first I thought you was talking about the other Racky cuz. You know, you got TJ Racky, then you got his partner oh, nah, nah, that's why I was like is he talking about it?
Speaker 1oh no, but once he described it I knew he wouldn't talk, hands down, take through the best car in me Chicago ever seen.
Speaker 4Yeah, hands down hands down For shit.
Speaker 1show Hands down, that couldn't do nothing. They couldn't do nothing.
Speaker 2A lot of people used to give Tay shit cuz he didn't have a car and him and Poseidon beef kind of pissed me off. But it is what it is. No, but honestly though, like it doesn't.
Speaker 4You don't even need to have a car to fucking host them, like when you host in you just have to have the host.
Speaker 1What I'm trying to say by that is like if you're like, just like, not, you're doing half ass, like Tay will put together good meets, if you're just dropping fucking addies that were used a week before, dude, trying to get some cloud off the meets, that's not like putting effort in.
Speaker 3That's just gonna be a fuckfest, you know.
States Coming Together for an Event
Speaker 1I'm sorry to know that, but like dude, Tay was planning this shit months before, months prior, talking to people months prior. So like I give him props, you know what I'm saying all day. Like I even popped out, I told him I was like dude, this shit's sick, this is something like I would probably never have been able to do, or like just something I never thought about, cuz that's like, that's nuts. He brought people from Cali a fucking how many different states.
Speaker 2Seven, eight, it was like between eight and twelve.
Speaker 1That's absolutely insane. It was some nut shit Texas was there, cuz I met up with a couple people down in Texas when I went.
Speaker 2Texas, the Tristate, motherfucking. Philly came fucking, florida came fucking.
Speaker 1Yeah, Florida did come St Louis, St Louis.
Speaker 2Kentucky. Yeah, like it was a lot of fucking states here for that, so like dude that's some shit that really has not been done before.
Speaker 1Like the only place that really kind of does shit like that is like LA, but they'll do like beta LA, that's really it. But, now, dude, they're fucking. Everybody's sliding everywhere now. So I kind of think he started like a little wave.
Speaker 4He started a trail for sure, I'm not gonna lie, he definitely did?
Speaker 2He definitely did, because I was in multiple states always yeah 100%.
Speaker 4That was like a one time thing and everybody was like damn we could do this shit for real and it definitely opened eyes up, like for that I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2the first motherfucker who thought of it was Smurf.
Speaker 4With the Minnesota versus Chicago. Yeah, oh 100%.
Speaker 1Yeah, like, like.
Speaker 4Tages took that in Tages brought it to a bigger scale.
Speaker 2Yeah, he brought it to an enormous scale. Yeah, and that you gotta commend him for because, like 100%.
Speaker 1I always give Smurf his props. We would but had sometimes. But it just happens.
Speaker 4I'm gonna have to be chill ass for that.
Speaker 1It just happens. At the end of the day I got my respect for him all day, all day. You know we, like it really wasn't me, it was the crew. But, like you know, at the end of the day we it was like a meat beef. It was one time and that was my guy.
Speaker 2I'm gonna tell you this Because he told me about the beef and he didn't really mention you. Yeah, because it really wasn't my beef.
Speaker 1Like I said, it was the crew Like me and him were always cool, like when he passed, bro, I made stickers. That was my guy. I didn't really pop out, because it's fine for me I ain't getting no stickers.
Speaker 4I ain't getting no stickers either. That was my dog.
Speaker 1I'll bring him. I'll bring him. Actually, I think I have some in the whip. I think I have some in the whip.
Speaker 4It's a big fuck 312 real.
Speaker 1Relax, because I'm not 312 real anymore. So oh, not 312 real. Yeah, just G8 real it's okay, I'm not 312 genuine. Yeah, you know, sometimes we retired. Yeah, exactly, you gotta hang the jersey on.
Speaker 4As you wearing it okay.
Speaker 1Yeah, I didn't retire this one yet. I'm still here.
Speaker 4Nah, but I definitely feel like a lot of people don't really think about how much effort is put into hosting.
Speaker 1Yeah 100%.
Speaker 4Like I said last week literally mentioned, we was up at 3.30 in the morning talking about what spots I hosted one time.
Decline of the Car Scene Discussion
Speaker 2I don't want to ever do that shit. That shit is stressful dog as fuck.
Speaker 4And then it's not even just. You can't even just have a list, because if you have a list and send it to people, everybody gonna get that motherfucker, all these specs got it Next to you know, CPD got it and we fucked for the night. And then people be being mad at you because you don't want to send them to Addy.
Speaker 1And it's like that was cool like bullshit, bro.
Speaker 4You just gotta keep that shit low and a lot of people don't think about all that effort, that goes into that.
Speaker 2I will say this All the hosts love me. I never miss the Addy. Even when I wasn't outside, they were sending me these, the lists what we think about tonight.
Speaker 4Well, yeah, because when you gain the respect, we got 100% trust you.
Speaker 1Like I know, if I send you a list full of Addy's not gonna fuck us in, it's a half.
Speaker 4But if I ever, ever, ever come out of retirement, I ain't sending you the list just because you said that.
Speaker 2Um, then you won't be able to come out of retirement. I'll make sure of it. I got more pool in the scene than you now.
Speaker 4Yeah, because I don't want to be part of it. Because I don't want to be part of it.
Speaker 1I got no pool. I'm washed, I'm so washed up.
Speaker 2It's like a beach whale dude. This is so crazy. They be asking me to come outside. The new generation don't even fucking know me for real. They've seen me outside last year before they started and they like come outside and I be like.
Speaker 4And that's crazy how quick shit changed yeah. Like because he was out last year, you know what I'm saying. But it's like boom, new season, it's like hell and you fucking face it that you like who the fuck is like when Chicago got, popping was during COVID dude.
Speaker 2For sure. I remember seeing motherfuckers on 87. I just didn't know that was the takeover. I used to pull up. I've been drunk as fuck, drunk as fuck, just kicking it watching, and the one time I didn't pull up, they started shooting. We're not going to talk about what happened. But just know. I would have been there. I had a little free code there. She was telling me to pull up and I was going to pull up and then she takes me like, oh my god, don't come, they're shooting.
Speaker 1It wasn't really you, they just fucking.
Speaker 2And that burned 87 up. At that point it was done, oh for sure.
Speaker 1And then there was some mom on the news about some shit, about like how she don't want her son working at the jewel, no more.
Speaker 2All right, that's insane, like you? Was closed at the time, but all right. Close this fuck.
Speaker 1You got it girl.
Speaker 4Okay, mr 392. Manny, you never gave us your answer because Rio didn't stop talking.
Speaker 2No, actually, actually, I told you I was fired up, I'm ready. Actually, he said he had a question. I want to hear what his question is.
Speaker 3I had a question for the host and the co-host out of all the Chicago versus out of state. Which one did you guys fuck with the most?
Speaker 2The first one. The first one was absolutely not.
Speaker 4First one for you, as in like actually.
Speaker 2Chicago versus everybody.
Speaker 1I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4I like.
Speaker 1Minnesota. Minnesota was not.
Speaker 4But I also. I can't even got a, I don't even got a fair say in that shit, because I wasn't out at Chicago versus everybody. So I've seen all the, all the clips, I've seen all the everything and that shit was insane. Even seen it from my half like that shit was insane and I wasn't even there Like I looked at that show like damn. I should have popped the fuck out.
Speaker 2I'm going to tell you how wild it was. I made four flower cones Cost me $3,000 to make all that shit and never got to use them. Like I wound up giving them away or like staging them at my shop or some shit, like for decoration. Never got to use them. That's how wild it was.
Speaker 4Gee, let me tell you Like yeah.
Speaker 1No, it was so crazy, it was nuts. I'm sorry I pulled up to like this big at all. You remember when? What's his name? What's his name? J-mun, not J-Money. What the fuck is his name?
Speaker 2J-Money. He had the chile with the red lights.
Speaker 1No, the dude that got rolled back on by Ruben.
Speaker 2Oh, feasts.
Speaker 1Yeah, when I seen it, bro, that was so lit. That was just a vibe. That was a vibe Chicago never seen before that was at number two yeah.
Speaker 2I feel like Shout out to my boy Mitchek.
Speaker 3I feel like man the Chicago versus Miami one was pretty fun when everybody went from Chicago into Miami.
Speaker 2I heard about that Rollo was out there.
Speaker 3I heard about that. Toxica was out there Some rock. I was out there.
Speaker 2I still can't believe that Toxica was the slinger.
Speaker 1Yeah right, and she was cold too. I'll give her. She had hands, she had decent hands.
Speaker 2Like, my first time seeing her was literally.
Speaker 1She had a fat bump at 42.
Speaker 2She was using her car as a bowling ball through people.
Speaker 1That's my first time ever finding.
Speaker 2I was like huh, and then everybody started telling me stories about her being a swinger.
Speaker 1I'm like what you want to hear, something crazy. The first time I've ever seen her I think she was with another shorty. It was right here, right here at Union, and she was swinging and she did not know. She either didn't know how to swing or the circle was too small, but that bitch was not going and we all thought she was going to kill somebody. And then, like two weeks later, we're down at a block at Lumber and she's going nuts and I'm like what the fuck. Where's she been at?
Speaker 4So what was your answer to what you think was the biggest factor in the downfall of the car scene? Man For real, I'm going to need you to stop slinging the fucking ice in your damn cup.
Speaker 3Man, there's a lot of stuff that goes into it. I could say either. They're probably like when Panda got locked up.
Speaker 2That's it. That's the real ass Panda got locked up and shit went south.
Speaker 3I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 6He was like a super mediator. He had this shit on lock, uncle Snoop.
Speaker 1Once Scotty got put on the band too.
Speaker 2Not having Scotty at the meets definitely took away.
Speaker 3Shout out my sister Because he walked around getting everybody lit.
Speaker 2But this goes to when I did my interview with Snoop. Snoop was saying like spectators trying to gain clout off this shit, and I'm like they're not really spectators, they actually public figures because you think about it, you got Scotty fucking walking around lit his fuck passing everybody's shot. Screaming, screaming, just turned the fuck off, just like how. Jigsaw is Fucking Jigsaw. He rolled up on the fucking tricycle. He blow the fucking horn and that motherfucker just everybody go crazy. He get the crowd going. It's provocative. It keeps the people going.
Speaker 1Exactly.
Speaker 2Like you need that shit. Wally motherfucking, mike Myers, you name it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Because, like bro, at the end of the day, swinging can only go on for so long until like it's like you know what I'm saying it's the same shit at the same spot, and you kind of got to switch it up. But when you got those people that are coming in and out, like making that shit more fun, more lit on the side, we had like a little camera we would do and we would just like create little snippet shows about it and we would all get teed as fuck. We get people lit, like the spectators all lit. So like we just we kind of tried to keep it like I'll just lit, without kind of having people spinning 24 seven, you know, because you know at the end of the day people are going to run out of tires and shit too. So we want to keep it going for a little bit. We want to enjoy the whole night. We don't want to just burn up on spot, you know.
Speaker 2And that's the beauty of it. Like, and me and me and me and me and Snow talked about that shit I'm doing my famous wick move, famous wick move. Were you at the statue when we got hit, when you got hit, when we got hit? I don't think so.
Speaker 1I've been at the statue, though that was at Chicago versus everybody.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah, gee, that was the funniest shit ever. I can't stop talking about it.
Speaker 1I remember when we were there the first time, bro, that shit had people, my shit was rock. That shit was crazy. That's when we put the cone on it said that shit was lit dude. I do gotta say shout out Loo Dog Also my sister too, if it wasn't for them.
Discussing Favorite Swingers and Their Cars
Speaker 3I mean, I was going to the meets and stuff, but Definitely shout out Loo Dog, loo Dog, man, loo Dog. He hit me up and he's like pop out to this meet, I'm bad. So me and my sister go instantly. It was at the era when I had my V6 charger.
Speaker 2You know, I was just like I was like. I was like I was like I was like I was like, I was like I was like.
Speaker 3I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was just like I was like I was like Let up, let up, annemarie, let up. Oh, he stabbed me that. I'm good dude. Do you think you can see it Too bad? Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4Drunk as fuck it was crazy, as you do to everybody.
Speaker 3Yeah, basically.
Speaker 1What the?
Speaker 3hell, take a shot, fall take a shot. All right, come on. Always have a fifth on site. Two damn many fifths. Just a spawn out of nowhere. That's not even a good number of fifths. Like man, where y'all get these fifths from? They just pull it out their back.
Speaker 4They told us the secret. They would hide them bitches in a car and then they'd be drunk as fuck. They pull out another one and then the slew dog would turn around. Scottie got the fifth and he's like where the fuck you get that from the whip? Finish that one. Boom, another one. You just had to do a fucking seat. That's crazy.
Speaker 1Because now look at me.
Speaker 3I'm right here. Let's be nice baby.
Speaker 4So anyway next time, I can bring your own chair.
Speaker 1I can't. I got a sick gaming chair that has 312 crew on the head.
Speaker 4Damn, you wrapped 312 crew like that.
Speaker 1It was just because I've always had a little G at heart.
Speaker 3So okay, okay, we're going to get into swingers.
Speaker 1Let me hear it.
Speaker 4Let me hear it this is one of my favorite questions. I have a few, but this is one of my favorite ones. I'm here for it If you could pick any swinger and see them swing something that's not their regular swing and car. Who and what would you put in? What would you put them in?
Speaker 1Fuck so like any swinger, but without their car.
Speaker 4Yeah, any swinger doesn't have to be like your top favorite. Just pick a swinger and then let me know what you want to see them in other than what they drive now.
Speaker 1Dude. Dude, not just because he's my boy, just because, personally, in my opinion, I think he was the best swinger of all time.
Speaker 3What you going to say.
Speaker 1My boy Zuzu. You put that motherfucker in a scat dude. He will tear that shit up, no doubt, no doubt. Wait in a what?
Speaker 4In a scat you put that he's definitely been in one before.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4So that's got to be something else, because he's already done that. I got a story.
Speaker 3I got a Zuzu this swing. My V6 charger at Lumber broke crazy, I think.
Speaker 1I was there for it because I remember it.
Speaker 3I'm like Zuzu toss this bitch. He fucking, fucking man gets in passenger seat, starts tossing that whole arm.
Speaker 1Zuzu baby.
Speaker 3Zuzu baby.
Speaker 1But yeah, the one time we had a fucking, this guy got a fucking charger from what's it called CarMax and we were. We were fucking dog in that motherfucker. Is that the blue one?
Speaker 1No, it was the gray one. We were dogging it and he went to go switch up in a lane and auto-braked and I, when I tell you my balls, saying to my fucking stomach, dude, oh my God, I don't know why they have that shit, but he was going crazy in that bitch all night. And then he had a manual scat too. He got from CarMax and that's when I first got my BMW fucking swinging a piss out of that shit too as a manual. So you give my boy a scat. He's pulling up all day.
Speaker 3All day. I put money on it too. All right, you know, I think I got to give it to Sully bro. If I ever were to see Sully bro, I just seem like in some form like a beam or some over the 5 crazy, some crazy shit, bro, and they got will, so we had that shit.
Speaker 1I wish this Corvette stayed alive, man I was there, I was there.
Speaker 4That's crazy.
Speaker 1Fucking high class tattoos baby.
Speaker 4Shout out high class studio. Okay, so back to the swingers. Give me your top three swingers in state, out of state. All bullshit aside, this is a friendly competition and don't just say your boy, because he's your boy in state and out of state. Don't fucking matter.
Speaker 1Well, top three no shade, Well fuck man Joey brought the fucking CTS V rollbacks to Chicago.
Speaker 4CTS crazy, oh my God, dude.
Speaker 1I can watch him do that shit all day. All day. I can watch it all day. I'll buy him tigers to watch it all day. Fuck that. Shit's so satisfying dude.
Speaker 4Hey man, you better take up on that shit. He already done, said it.
Speaker 1What.
Speaker 4That you want to buy him some tires. No, I want to know.
Speaker 1The only time I'm doing, that is, if I get my own personal fucking show for that shit. I want to be sitting there and just all day I want to watch in my lawn chair with fucking a whole case of bushlight all day.
Speaker 4That's crazy.
Speaker 3That's your choice. Bud Light, my boy. Bushlight, dude, I ain't budding, I'm like wow.
Speaker 1Bushlight Drink it Bud Light. The fuck, I look like. Coronas and Modelo. Oh, modelo's, go crazy.
Speaker 3But then I feel like a fat motherfucker dude.
Speaker 4No bad bro, If you hey. If y'all ever see me outside drinking a fucking Modelo, take me to fuck home, because I'm drunk as hell.
Speaker 3That's what you sipping, whatever.
Speaker 4That boy is like hey, this one to give me drunk, let's go.
Speaker 1When you know I got. When you see me sipping Casa. Last time I had Casa. I don't know how I walked in my front door, but just know I got home and I was laying in front of my toilet.
Speaker 3Man, I remember real guy me drunk my sister birthday. He had me off the vodka red boys. I'm telling you I'm a Henny guy, only Henny, this guy, yo man you here to take this. I'm what the fuck is this? He's a vodka red boy. You fuck with it. All right, two drinks in, I'm blacked out. I'm telling you, I was drunk as fuck off the Henny. I was chilling Vodka red bull is creeping me.
Speaker 1Vodka red bull is doing demos. You never had a vodka red bull.
Speaker 3Explain it to the people who don't know what a vodka red bull is.
Speaker 1So it's about like two shots of vodka and you do like 75% of a red bull. You put it in the cup, you don't stir it up, bang vodka, red bull and you're getting creased. You will get fucked up. But personally, dude.
Speaker 4Wait, y'all. Just look at Hood back here with that BS iPad in the corner.
Speaker 1Gee I cannot take it serious.
Speaker 4What are you doing, dawg?
Speaker 1Let my boy do his thing.
Speaker 3Let him cook, let him cook, let him cook, let him cook. Tell him about this, hey man.
Speaker 4I got to shout TJ out for that one time that his phone broke and he was in the chile recording the car meets off his iPad I remember that shit too. This is what the fuck this shit remind me of man. I remember that. No, but you didn't say your other two, you said CTSV, joe, you got two more.
Speaker 1There's the one CTSV guy from Kelly I forgot his name, though. He's fucking nuts. The fucking guy from Kelly. That means I got four. I get another choice. Is it the skinny V? Not skinny V, Not skinny, not sinister. It's the other motherfucker dude.
Speaker 3How many V's man, All these V's?
Speaker 1I don't see the V. Oh, no, he's in the V3, the gray one, the newer one. You know him. I know him, john. Yeah, he was nuts out in Kelly, oh shit you live.
Speaker 4That's how you walking around with the damn iPad like that, that shit's hilarious. Hey, what's he just saying? He hit one more for his go-in this is short Anyway.
Speaker 1And then nobody's keeping that shit as tight as Poseidon. He goes crazy. He's been able to manjeet he's tandem, he could do it all he could drift. So personally I think he got hands in the scat. No doubt he's up there in the top three. And then you got to have Zuzu in there because he was one of the people who was going crazy. There was nobody was matching what Zuzu was doing when the meets were at where they were at the time when Zuzu was doing what he was doing. So I give those people their props 100%. I got more. I got a lot more.
Speaker 4Those are your top three.
Speaker 1Yeah, those are my top three.
Speaker 4Cool you.
Speaker 3You already know I should. I said my top three. Probably. I got to give a shout out to King Scotty bro from Miami. That guy is crazy. He's got streets intersections, everything.
Speaker 1Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Number fucking one of all time Big motherfucking, red and his boy I forgot his boy, moe, his boy, moe Rex. Them motherfuckers are the two best swingers ever on the planet Earth. That's it. That's all I got.
Speaker 3I say probably my top two. I really don't know, dude, but it's bro in that black Corvette. Crazy bro, he got that two stuff. Moe, yeah, moe. Bro, he's insane bro man. We were down time. One time I was in a crazy ass intersection, walked the whole block. I was like yo he got it, bro, for show For show for show Shit. And then the third. I got to say, probably I'm crazy, he did his shit. He goes crazy, for sure.
Speaker 1He does go crazy. If you got a scat difference, that'll help you go even better, 100% it's okay though. It's okay, I do put too much respect on him.
Speaker 3LSD is a LSD baby.
Speaker 1You got to put a lot of respect on him Because Pum Crazy Snow was like one of our first members in 312 who had a sick car. You know what I'm saying and that's when 312 was starting, but he's been in the meets forever G.
Speaker 4I remember when Lil Bobby came up to my homies window to he fucking. I don't know if you remember 577 Heaven, the white chally, it was an RT. That was the first swinger in 312.
Speaker 1Yup that he was going nuts for us too, first fucking swinger in 312, man, if I'm gonna be honest, I was sitting. I think that's how we got most of our cloud in the beginning 100%.
Speaker 4Shout out to D man, that's my fucking Habibi 100% man.
Speaker 1I haven't seen him in years.
Speaker 4He off the map but he coolin' though, he coolin' though. Trust he coolin', but he off the map. But what was I, finna, say? I just remember being at Ford City. Who's at Ford City? I'm sitting passenger in my homie whip right. This is Lil' Iz. He talk about A. This is some dude hit me up talking about if you want to be in our crew. I said what crew? He talk about 312 crew. We look at the IG. I'm like who the fuck? I was like nigga. They got like 10 followers.
Speaker 4Yeah we weren't sure I was like they got like 10 followers and he goes right, this is back. I'm telling you, 312 before 312 was 312. This was just upcoming 312. And then I'm like, what are you talking about? He was like, yeah, he's saying he finna come up to me next to you know, like few minutes later, this little ass white boy fucking run up to the window talking about hey, hey, we want you to be in 312, man 312, your ass fucking went crazy out there. I'm sitting here. I'm like who the fuck let this man out that house? I was like isn't it past his bedtime?
Speaker 1Yeah, that was the funny thing, dude. This kid was like 16, running around to adults with fucking cars spinning around at 12 30 at night.
Speaker 4That shit was insane, though, bro. I was literally laughing my ass off in kids a little hustler.
Speaker 1Okay, shut up Bobby, shut up Bobby. Y'all made it something.
Speaker 4But I remember getting my homeboy shit for that. I said you finna, join this little boys fucking.
Speaker 1Hey relax.
Speaker 4I was like you, finna, join this little ass kids crew.
Speaker 1I think personally, if I did still have it, I think we'd be in a warehouse right now with shells full of merch and shit like that.
Speaker 4So would you ever come back to the scene in that way?
Speaker 3That's what he was going to ask me he ever asked me if he was going to ask me, if he was going to ask me if I was going to ask him.
Speaker 1Now we're on a topic, dude.
Speaker 3Why did you take back 312, bro?
Speaker 1I just think that, in general, I think cars are just on a decreasing, decreasing level. I think, personally, if you don't have a scat or anything, it's just like, so there's requirements now.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I think it is. I think it's not requirements, but I think more so, if you don't have something that is really meant to be built, you're always going to have somebody in your ear and shit. But I just think it's just decreasing, bro, even if, you see it, everybody's kind of saying the car community is just going downhill. You can't even fucking do anything to your mufflers, no more, you can't do jack shit to your car.
Speaker 3Basically, in certain states, yeah, we got that shit on log bro.
Speaker 1They're trying to bring something to Illinois, to where you have a muffler thing like a limiter on the streets and you get a ticket for it.
Speaker 3Yeah, this charges straight, it's your volume. It's too fucking high yeah.
Speaker 4We can't hear you game, you shit off.
Speaker 2Right, I want to take a piss and turn my mic down. So yeah, picking up. But yeah, they got so many rules and regulations in Cali. It's crazy.
Speaker 1I personally. I just think it's not going in the right direction, but I don't know. I feel like but you just mean that overall, not necessarily Chicago, then yeah, overall 100% Everywhere, like I think it's just a decrease, but that doesn't like infuriate you, like that doesn't want to push you to do more.
Speaker 4You know what I'm saying. Like the fact that it's they're pushing so hard to take the love of the scene away you know, what I'm saying, making it look like it's a bad thing that don't make you want to be like them Like.
Speaker 1I put a lot of work in before. Like I put a lot of work in, a lot of time and effort. To be honest, I got nothing at the end of the day, like it wasn't even for anything. Like I made a couple friends, 100%, but like at the end of the day I personally I didn't think it was worth it. I think it would have been better if I just did my own thing and had like a smaller crew, because shit just got out of place. It just turned into like I set a free-fraw it's like a circus now it's nuts. But I mean I would bring it to like a business standpoint. You know, I wouldn't have it to where I'm selling fucking merch out of my trunk in a parking lot. I'd be selling it out of a warehouse with like the crew members putting it together with me. You know it'd be like it'd be like a team effort, like how it used to be.
Speaker 1I feel like that's when shit kind of went south, when like it was like one or two, maybe three people doing the work and then other people were trying to put their inputs in, and it's like we could all be doing this together. We all should be doing this together, but I don't know. I feel like I don't know. I don't think I'll ever be back to be honest, because it's just, it's just not my scene. At the end of the day, I personally, I don't know. It's not how it was, it's not fun, it's no fun, I like to just have fun, dude.
Speaker 3It's all bullshit, man.
Speaker 1Once it's charged, I'm gonna take you out one weekend, bro hey all I'm saying is, if I pop out to a meet and I have a good five Latina Mamis around me, I'll be good, I'll come back out, don't worry. I'll come back.
Speaker 4Hey, we need five fine ass Latina Mamis to tap in no tortas, only fine Latina mamas. Who'd?
Speaker 2know what that means no tortas.
Speaker 4What does that mean? Hey man, but tap in with my man real, we finna host auditions for that, because we finna make that happen.
Speaker 1We have the Biggie's Big Ball, the Buzz Balls for you, buzz Balls. So don't worry, we got the hose drink.
Speaker 3That juice, that juice, there we go. She hit him, though.
Speaker 4There you go. It's a fuckin' ice.
Speaker 1I love ice.
Speaker 4It's so good, good, I think this would be a perfect time to ask your question.
Speaker 1What's that question?
Speaker 2How you feel about the state of the community right now.
Speaker 4That wasn't the question I was asking, but that's a good question too.
Speaker 1Like I said, it's a fuckin' circus, dude. I feel like if everybody kind of was on a common ground and came to, we used to have meetings, dude, we used to have fucking meetings with all of the crews, all of the hosts, we'd have meetings, like dude, our shit was lined, we were good to go, yes, fuck Organization, exactly. It was a for real underground street car scene. We was like an underground organization, dude.
Speaker 4That shit was hilarious.
Speaker 1Dude, we were working out of a warehouse we would meet up at like businesses that we knew the owners of and have meetings in their business. It was pretty sick, dude, like if I'm be honest, that's as official as we got. It was cool, it was sick as fuck. We were all working together.
Speaker 2What was up for the OGs to make that happen again? I mean dude.
Speaker 4I think a lot of the OGs are tired, exactly Like dude, no matter if they get over the scene. Hey, I'm not finished talking.
Speaker 2It's not up to the OGs because they made a decision to retire. If you love the scene, we gotta keep our hands on it.
Speaker 4That's what I was gonna say, so if I were to put out a tip for the host to bring at least something back with Deadass B and be like A-man, get your head out your ass and you gotta work with these other crews rather than just trying to compete with them. You know what I'm saying. Y'all gotta Deadass Meetup Link Up I'm talking about we would have set dates. Like gee, I would call off of work to go to these meets. I quit work, okay.
Speaker 1I got fired because I wasn't getting paid. No, but yeah, they paid me on time and we would literally set specific days.
Speaker 4We'd set a day, we'd set a time, we'd set a low, we'd all meet up, we'd talk about all the host, all the crew leaders, and we'd sit down and we'd talk about car meets. We'd talk literally about locations. We'd sit there and we'd be like hey, what spot y'all think has popped? You know what I'm saying, what spot should we stay away from? And we'd talk and we'd be like y'all got any new spots? Like what do you think we should do? And that's the key thing we had communication. Y'all could do fucking Zoom calls if y'all really wanted to. We don't fucking matter. The fact is that y'all need to sit down and create a respect and a bond in between crews because y'all could go out and be like, oh yeah, we cool, but behind the scene y'all don't want shit to do with other crews. Like that's not gonna work because at the end of the day we are one big happy family. You feel me Like?
Speaker 2no, but that is okay, like, like is the reality of the shit is motherfuckers everybody not gonna mesh with everybody. Yeah, like, but you have to have that respect.
Speaker 4That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1Because, I mean even if you don't have that respect, you won't get nowhere if I'm behind this.
Speaker 2You won't get nowhere without the respect, and that's not what you were saying. You were saying everybody had to be cool by y'all Love be done.
Speaker 4Well, I mean, but realistically, like. I mean if we were to say, like in a picture, a perfect, that's fucking moment, like that's how it was, we was our cool by y'all type shit, we were all cool as fuck dude. There was no beef like that, Like it sounds like something crazy now because I guess like it's hella beef, but we really didn't have no beef, cuz it's a bunch of street shit.
Speaker 1Now that's all everybody wants to be on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, once the streets got involved for real.
Speaker 2It changed it right now. But even if you're not, cool with him like that.
Speaker 4has just have to respect as a crew lead with another crew, lead with another host, Just carry that respect.
Speaker 1You got too much of a big head bro.
Speaker 2So, but that that would make. That's where these boys have to become me. You got to be comfortable with shaking a nigga hand. You know you don't like for the betterment of your community.
Speaker 1Thanks, dude. Me and Bobby G were 17,. 16 running adults around Chicago, yeah. You have to At the end of the day you could anybody could do it. You just got to kind of have that respect, like you guys are saying, yeah, like y'all just got to grow the fuck up, you got to know your place and stop trying to be for motherfuckers because they dropped the location that you dropped last week.
Speaker 4Like you know what I'm saying. Exactly, if it works, it works and just create that mutual bond and respect within each other. Like, if y'all want to talk shit about them behind the books, that's, that's on y'all. But face to face, y'all got to have the respect for each other and y'all got to have respect when it comes to the scene.
Speaker 2Exactly you know what I'm saying. Like and me and Panda, we discussed this and I keep bringing it up because it was very much so. One of them motherfucking. One of them motherfucking things that like kind of motherfucking changed the trajectory of the meets and how motherfuckers when him and rapping racks was motherfucking having a little online beef yeah, you know what I'm saying. That shit created a rift in the community All that shit, dude.
Speaker 2And it went. That was the initial breakup, because that was like the biggest blow up of 2022. And then it was Tay and Poseidon Like you got. You got all these big name people motherfucking on the internet bashing each other, talking shit about each other, and now it's creating division in the community. But when the shit happened with motherfucking Panda and Heartless Rex, I said to fool, I called them both out. But I said to motherfucking, I got on the phone with Panda and me and Panda talked about this on his episode, Like bro, do you see what I was saying?
Speaker 2When we, when you are part of the hierarchy, whatever going on in these group chats got to stay in these group chats. Exactly, you can't expose that to the spectators. If y'all beefing in the group chat, keep it there. But the moment you put it in a public eye and it's somewhat real beef and y'all really motherfucking hashing it out, it creates a division. It creates now the people who follow luxury. They riding with luxury. They don't like nobody that likes strictly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, motherfucking, you got fucking tan Poseidon. Now they follow us. Don't fuck with each other. And now it's creating not just crew verse crew is creating spectators, verse spectators, because it's like a football game.
Speaker 2Yeah, whoever, whatever team you riding for, if they swing, you swing exactly. You know what I'm saying and that shit, that was a part of the. That was a part of the downfall. That's. That's where it initially started. Yeah, 100%. Then the streets got involved, and when the streets got involved, that's always one. It became a whole different ball game.
Speaker 1Because it's like, like I said before, we were there for the right reasons. Now people are there for the wrong reasons. It's all cloud, it's all bullshit, and half of the shit was half. The people were just trolling, bro, and people were just getting booty hurt.
Speaker 2And that's another thing. Like you got to know the difference between trolling and when the motherfucking really beefing. Like there's been plenty of motherfuckers when I used to be in the chats heavy. Like used to talk shit to me. Tell me I was washed up. Oh, I'm a bitch, I'm from the suburbs. All this type of shit, yeah, all the crazy shit. They don't even fucking know me from a can of paint. Okay, cool, who are you again? Exactly, bro. But like that shit didn't bother me. You know what I'm saying. Like I would reach out to who I know. Like you know this person with the young. Oh, no, that's such and such. You know him. He just trolling.
Speaker 1Yeah, he just fucking around yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, like, and once I get that, that go ahead, I pay it, no mind.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly you just. Or you just fuck around back, dude, that's what I do. I just fuck around back. It's funny.
Speaker 2Yeah, like, but I will fuck around back. But sometimes like that's depending on what you got going on in your personal life, you might take that shit a little more personal that day than you would any other day. Now you trying to fuck this nigga up. Yeah, yeah, and sometimes people got to learn when to stop playing too.
Speaker 1Yeah, to be honest, there's certain times where people shouldn't just be on bullshit all the time Speaking of mic. Sorry.
Speaker 3Deep ass. Sorry, yeah right.
Speaker 1But fucking, I don't know. I think, like you said, the rift happened when people started talking shit and then I, like personally, other crews were going to come, like at the end of the day they were going to come, but I think it just all kind of happened the wrong way, I don't know. People were just trying to gain clout fast, I think, at the end of the day. So that's when shit went south. Shit been going south though, fuck man.
Disagreements Over Money and Business Decisions
Speaker 2So I think it's just fucked right now. Right now it's fucked. I got another question for you, so this is a hot ass question why the fuck you still on Bobby? I heard you stole on Bobby. What was that about? Stole on Bobby's?
Speaker 1crazy. So what had happened was?
Speaker 3Oh, I hope this should be nuts, so what happened was you went that fucking ice.
Speaker 1It's Chick-fil-A ice, it's fire.
Speaker 4Stop munching that shit, chick-fil-a ice is the best ice in
Speaker 3the fucking world. Yeah, next to hospital.
Speaker 2This is a dick, that's what I'm saying. Damn it hospitalized.
Speaker 3Hospitalized beef.
Speaker 2Mm.
Speaker 4Bussin.
Speaker 1But back to what we were saying. So there was like a time to where we were on our disagreements you know what I'm saying and he wanted to like stop making merch. And we had, like I had half my money into this. That's when I was working at this Honda job and that's when I just recently had like got fired. So like I used my last two paychecks. I put it was about like like 450, 465.
Speaker 1You know, I was a poor, I was 16, coming out of 17, going from high school straight to work. So like I was hustling dude, I was going high school to work and then sometimes I go to the lab and work on shit with them. So like I was hustling, I was putting in time and work for this. So he wanted to take all the money out of the bank account and like buy rims with them and I'm like, no, we're gonna reinvest this money and make shirts. I'm like, why would we do that? I said we could reinvest the money so we could both evenly split. You know what I'm saying, because I had money in there. I'm not gonna just hand over money, I'm not. I'm not stupid, I'm not a goofy.
Speaker 1So at the end of the day, like I was saying I was, I'm just not trying to get fucked over so I was even at the shop. I was talking to Jenny, poseidon, all of them. I was like this kid wants to take all the funds when we could put it back in the merch and like really just keep going. Like at this point we could have been brolin. We just sold out of, like I think it was like 50 shirts and like 150 stickers that we all just hustled and grinded in the shop and all gone in one weekend. And after that I realized like we could bring this shit to like a high-high ass fucking level. But we were headbutting at the end of the day and this kid wanted to go buy rims when I wanted to make more merch and like keep our shit booming, you know.
Speaker 4Yeah, which I remember. I remember having a conversation.
Speaker 1Yeah, we were at the shop all night talking about that shit yeah because I remember being like what the fuck if you're gonna use your money for a car, at least give it to y'all swingers for tires.
Speaker 4That's what I remember saying. Exactly what the fuck.
Speaker 1Because, like I, like I said, I was putting my money into this. This was his mother's money that she, like, gave to him to help him. It was nuts and I didn't tell him to give this money.
Speaker 2Wait time out His mommy's money is crazy.
Speaker 3His mommy's money, bro.
Speaker 2Yes, so, bro, bobby, you gotta come tell your sad Gee. I need to hear it.
Speaker 1He can come tell his side, bro. I could come and be here for it. Dude, I don't matter, but like I said, bro, Don't worry, I got.
Speaker 4I got two pairs.
Speaker 1His mom, like we do.
Speaker 2We do. We promote boxing matches to squash beefs.
Speaker 4Shit, I'm here for it, bro. I got Fuck it we can record that bitch inside. I got the gloves, a pink pair and a white pair, like I was saying a half came from his mind.
Speaker 1I wasn't trying to do that. I was trying to do what we had. Like I said I was willing to put my whole fucking bank account on this because I knew it was gonna sell. Yeah, I had people who wanted this shit already. Actually, baby driver came up with a little design with the design posted it.
Speaker 2He talked about that.
Speaker 1I was like dude, let's run it, bro, let's fucking run it. And I even offered to get money and he didn't want none, he just wanted a shirt.
Speaker 2He bro, I keep asking him can, can I buy like a portrait that's what I'm saying Like like he's like.
Speaker 1He's like no cuz he's like he's like me, bro, he does it. He does it cuz he wants to. He doesn't do it cuz like he wants bread, he does it cuz he wants to, and I, that's why I respect him so much.
Speaker 2Oh, I know, that's why I see it when I see it my fault. No, you're good, you're good. We know how to walk in chew bubble gum sometimes.
Speaker 1But yeah, we got that half. And I told him I was like we could have been, just did like that little portion of shirts. We don't have to go crazy. You know it's our first drop, but he wanted to go crazy, I guess, and he just he got it and he did it. So I was like whatever, bro, at the end of the day. And then I keep saying at the end of the day I gotta stop doing that. Bush, this is buzz ball, but fucking, oh, what's it called we had. Yeah, I'm just glad you know what.
Speaker 4I'm saying after every fucking sentence oh, you know what I'm saying, right cuz fucking, fucking mo was in this bitch.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4I kid you not. I kid you not 197 times. More.
Speaker 1You should do a count. You should actually do a count, like a little bing.
Speaker 4If we took a shot for every time. Now I'm gonna fucking said you know what I'm?
Speaker 2saying Alcohol poisoning.
Speaker 4I'm sure the first five minutes Five minutes In the first five minutes.
Speaker 1But yeah, we were headbutton, and then that's when we just kind of both split apart and then I put it back into the white castles. We want two shirts, and then.
Speaker 4I remember those.
Speaker 1Yeah, we kind of ran those and then I was making stickers by and just little shit with it. I just got to a point, to where we were in the winter and that we just had no more sales. Yeah, really just how it went, cuz he, we just kind of stopped talking after that, after we split apart, yeah, kind of stopped talking. So I was like all right, I'm gonna take this and just reinvest it into the crew, because we were at the lab all night I was trying to figure, because I was trying to figure out like a reasonable way to get this shit done. But there is just, I don't know, it was just bullshit and I hate bullshit.
Speaker 4Hate the bullshit.
Speaker 2No, that's real.
Speaker 4It's fuck Okay. So we we talking about a lot of bullshit and all the downsides of the car meets and you know all the negative shit. Yeah. Could you ask your question?
Speaker 2Which which one.
Speaker 4What's your best? Oh, this is. He always get on my dick if I ask his question. I've been waiting too late. You already asked my question.
Speaker 2No, I didn't ask that question. Well, you asked one of them.
Speaker 4What was the other question?
Speaker 2The swinger question. That's my question.
Speaker 4Yeah, but I had to lead up to my actually. I last. I asked my question first about the swingers.
Speaker 1Yeah, she is too back to back. Yeah, I asked that one.
Speaker 4I thought she was going to be back so I was like, well, shit, we on the swing or topic, so you know. But, this is favorite question.
Speaker 2What's your best memory?
Speaker 1Let me stand up for this one.
Speaker 4Let me stand up for this one he did, as just you can hold your mic.
Speaker 1It's taped to the desk. Oh, I can so we're down town, we're downtown. We're on Lakeshore Drive. All right, mexican Independence Week. Okay, oh my God, here you go this isn't. This isn't two days, this isn't one. Three days, this was four motherfucking days. Corona's, modelo's, casa, anything you fucking name it. We were sipping on and we were cruising downtown, so we got the fucking background. I got a girl passing by the other speaking your mic.
Speaker 1Other side shaking her tits at me and shit, what the fuck, dude, I'm like, I love, I love this fucking.
Speaker 2I love that, fucking love them.
Speaker 1So, dude, we're all up in my fucking truck, we're all the fucking shooting fireworks. There's a takeover on Lakeshore Drive, bro. I could describe the whole thing, but it would take up an hour. It would take up an hour. I'm going back down.
Speaker 4That was your favorite memory.
Speaker 1Oh my God, I had my boys in the bag. I only think it was his favorite memory because?
Speaker 2because it was titties shaking.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I had to say the titties, if you didn't notice, this man got a thing for Latinos. They're my favorite because you know the Latino mommies love me. You know what?
Speaker 2I'm saying you probably be speaking Italian to them and shit.
Speaker 1I be swearing them in Italian, you know? Hey, let me hear.
Speaker 4Let me hear some in Italian real quick preview for the mommies.
Speaker 1Bafangulo ese mi culo mommie.
Speaker 2Oh hey, that's a ass, that's universal.
Speaker 1That's what I like. I like them big booties.
Speaker 2Me fucking to my boy.
Speaker 1Yeah, but there's another one too. It was Mexican Independence Day, and that's when we were. It was like May. It was the one in May and we were all at lumber that single, the mile you don't fuck.
Speaker 3My day is September 16th, I remember that day you got real drunk as hell yeah.
Speaker 1Dude. We were fucked up but we were all at lumber it was. There was no swinging dude, it was just a big ass fucking party. It was awesome. We had Kevin with the speakers and flags. It was crazy.
Mexican Holidays and Car Meets Discussion
Speaker 2It was just great Not to cut you off. All Mexican holidays in Val involves drinks, titties and more liquor and cars on facts.
Speaker 4But if you, if you were to mention like I love the Mexican at least get what they write.
Speaker 2I mean it's hard to respect. Look, the only reason I remember. The difference is because my father birthday is on my but you remember the difference.
Speaker 4You got to educate. Ok, yeah. I don't know if you know that my is May 5th and Mexican Independence.
Speaker 1Day is September 16th for my birthday, so you like to hear my mom is could buy me a gift, you know?
Speaker 2Yeah, just just just just give them, just give them some body shots, he'll take that.
Speaker 4And some titties in his face. We are up.
Speaker 2Yeah, let them lick the salt off your nipples.
Speaker 1So I'd like to hear.
Speaker 2You're an attention whore.
Speaker 4Anyway 3, 9, 2. Man.
Speaker 2He whammy for Kaysha 3, 4, 5 3, 4, 5.
Speaker 1I thought it was going to get it right.
Speaker 3Right now, it's about to be it's about to be,
Speaker 2It's about to be. No, he already building it. You ain't see the picture? Yeah, he's swapping that bitch out.
Speaker 4Wait, it's the fact I already said 3, 9, 2. Many. I correct me the first time because I was just rolling with that.
Speaker 1I don't know, I don't know how it?
Speaker 4goes so 3 whatever, 2, 3 whatever 5, 3 45. Whammy vacation.
Speaker 1Let's hear it.
Speaker 4Your favorite memory, memory, memory Me and more.
Speaker 3Man, I probably say Probably Chicago versus everybody. Man, that one was just that. With that Ain't nothing can compare to that one low key. That one was everybody was having fun, everybody was talking to the mic, my G everybody was drunk as hell, everybody was having a blast like bro man. That night, definitely a night I could remember for sure. And when I went to Miami with everybody that was pretty lit to no cap.
Speaker 1Oh, he always talks about that. He loves Miami dude.
Speaker 3Man, there was some, there was some shit that happened there. But liar.
Speaker 2Don't drink Liar.
Speaker 3It definitely was an experience for show Rocket man Shout out rocket too.
Speaker 1Love rocket, shout out my boy Gonzo and my boy Mattel. They've been here since the start.
Speaker 4Oh, shout out Gonzo, and we went to Wisconsin.
Speaker 1Love Gonzo hey man.
Speaker 4You know I'm gonna say that come 2024 I definitely got to make it to one of these out of state meets because I have not been into one. I've been to Fort Wayne, but I'm from Indiana so I don't fucking count.
Speaker 2Yeah, don't count. Everybody been challenged me to swing in a pit next year, so Shout out the Hooligan brothers on that one.
Speaker 4Oh you know, they're working on getting a legal pit too.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4They in the works and they did that big ass car meeting for Wayne. I could definitely see that taking a fuck off. Shout out them for real, because that's that was an amazing ass fucking car meet. Hey, so if no, that's my question, that's my question.
Speaker 2You don't even know what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4Call out somebody for the pits no, that wasn't okay, well, that's my question.
Speaker 2Go ahead.
Speaker 4If you could call somebody out that's not a swinger in a pit who would you call out?
Speaker 1Not a swinger, not a swinger. So like who, I would want to see swing. Yeah. Okay, I want to see Wendy City swing all day, or Nick? Oh my god.
Speaker 2Just Nick, nick put it out, I'd be going nuts for my guy. Hey, what's crazy. I could see him being a swinger in the near future if he motherfucking because, bro, all day he, he, he get in fucking frost cars and acting asshole he be acting a fool.
Speaker 1I love him, dude.
Speaker 2He drive his car like it's fucking. I've seen that. What'd he get? He got a Jeep right. No, he has a fucking. Dart. Dart, tiana, that's a dart.
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 1I thought it was a.
Speaker 2SRT. No, he got the. He got the the fast version dart Fuck it, dude.
Speaker 1If he's moving fast, that's all that matters. Yeah, so I got right there. I love him, fucking, love him too.
Speaker 2Who would you call it? Who you calling out big dog?
Speaker 3Man, I call out my homie bro, to be honest. Who my guys. His name is Fatboy he. Cool people Bro. I just want to see him swing he.
Speaker 4Fatboy is crazy.
Speaker 3He used to swing, but I want to see him swing some like a VA bro. I want to see him swing like a hemi, some crazy shit.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3Show he got, we he's, he. He's more than manual side too. So this is behind the Charlie scat.
Speaker 2It's still fucking me up that you and Kaseho look alike.
Speaker 1That's crazy. I see it too. I see it too. That's insane. What?
Speaker 3y'all think. What y'all think is like what is it?
Speaker 2Y'all. Y'all probably got the same daddy in a different moment.
Speaker 4Not from the cat.
Speaker 2Where are you from? He's from here.
Speaker 3He's not, he's a baby Gee. I'm going to the menacle.
Speaker 4Oh, that's crazy. You're going to Mexico.
Speaker 2Oh Gee Yo, fucking you are a.
Speaker 4What is you, man?
Speaker 2I'm not mad at all.
Speaker 4Right.
Speaker 2You got a proof reading. Make sure he ain't telling you he want to eat your pussy tonight. Oh.
Speaker 1You got a paragraph right now. Yes, Tell him. Put the fucking shit to the side.
Speaker 4That's it in the request.
Speaker 2It's so funny. I should have never shared her to the. To the page.
Speaker 4It's literally about it.
Speaker 2Her motherfucking shit going to the moon right now.
Speaker 1About what.
Speaker 4Shut up, shut up. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 2Him. No, we're not interviewing him.
Speaker 4Okay, cool.
Speaker 2Him. He's going to be interviewed by Dion TV.
Speaker 4That's what he. That's what he's saying.
Speaker 2Dion does fucking interviews.
Speaker 1He's just telling me he does interviews too, yeah.
Speaker 2He's going to interview he. Just well, he's been a part of the team.
Speaker 4He's just the slack.
Speaker 2He's been slacking. No, no, he had some personal shit going on, but he didn't.
Speaker 1He's the one. He the one that had the Audi right.
Speaker 2I believe so, yeah, okay, yeah, I know you're talking about yeah Fool as motherfucking Long story short. He has some shit going on in his family. And yeah, so he had to get that shit together before he could fully commit, but he's committed now. And what do you want?
Speaker 4He just wanted his time schedule. That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1She said I'm putting in the work over on this.
Speaker 4Right Period. I've been here. I was here Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, fucking Sunday.
Speaker 2A DG for six steeds Signed. Oh, you're a sign taker. 4.6 STZ. You're a sign taker, I'm assuming.
Speaker 4Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3Ain't that that crew Like sign taker crew? Yeah, we just interviewed them not too long ago.
Speaker 2They're my dogs.
Speaker 1They steal signs. That's exactly what the fuck I asked.
Speaker 2That's how they started.
Speaker 4That's how they should start it. No way, you gotta tune in for that episode.
Speaker 2They stole a sign out of Walmart, brought it to the meets and it just like blew up.
Speaker 4No, it was the cameras in use. Yeah, that's funny Sign takers, so they're a car crew now yeah, they got swingers and everything they started as taking that sign.
Speaker 2But they usually had goals. You started off as a spectator of this shit and you falling in love with it.
Speaker 4That's how I started and then they went on to be like road blockers, but hardcore road blockers.
Speaker 2Yeah, they used to help me keep the police back and not doing stupid shit.
Speaker 1No, that's good. Yeah, I mean, that's cool that they actually have a meaning for their nation.
Speaker 4Yeah, I definitely gave them shit for it at first, 100%.
Speaker 2I was like oh, yeah you got to yeah, because sign takers.
Speaker 1It's like saying, like 312, bro, like what do you want to area code in your name too Like.
Speaker 4I mean it's definitely a good comparison? No, was it.
Speaker 1No three both of them got meanings, but they just sounds.
Speaker 2I mean through 312 could pretty much motherfucking regulate like the general area you in.
Speaker 1Now it's all stupid. What is it?
Speaker 2What the fuck is that? What Tell, tell, tell folks I put my business on this Damn motherfucking. He need to get in the gym first before he come out, let you.
Speaker 4Hey you, that's crazy Because I was literally the gym talk. I posted.
Speaker 2Yeah, and he talking about where you at, though. Folks, you need to go get your bad body ass in the gym A lot of people need to get in the gym, bro.
Speaker 1Hey look, I got a dad.
Speaker 2My bitch is loving it, so I'm cool. It's dad by season right now, so I've been there by season every year, all year for me.
Speaker 3All year round, don't matter.
Speaker 1I'm ready to go, ready to fire out for us.
Speaker 2I used to have. I used to have all fours.
Speaker 1I'm fucking ready to go. Anybody I'm ready, I use all fours. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3You be on your knees. No, fuck, no.
Speaker 1I don't know. I heard you.
Speaker 4You talking about you talking about being all fours, that's all that. That was my question.
Speaker 1I said I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4That's some dog shit Dog.
Speaker 1Yeah, because I'm a fucking dog.
Speaker 2You just asked a dog ass question. You be on your knees, that's crazy, that's just absolutely insane.
Speaker 1So you take me for a person that would be on his knees.
Speaker 4I asked the question if I would have took you as that what I said you was that?
Speaker 1But you kind of to ask the question. You got to think something.
Speaker 4Do you want me to hurt your feelings now or off the off the podcast? I will talk about it later. Okay, let's get off the podcast. Yeah, yeah, we want to talk about it now.
Speaker 1I'm gonna take a shot after that.
Speaker 2Because we all know Jenny a troublemaker.
Speaker 4Jenny is not a troublemaker.
Speaker 1I am a child of. God.
Speaker 3I am a child of God. That's what they are saying. Then turn out to be demons.
Speaker 4Facts Am I lying, you is lying. Factual, you talking about my line Real, my line, hey, no, because it's a fact that you had a tapio homey so he could agree with you. So that don't even fucking count your opinion invalid.
Speaker 2You already know Invalid hey.
Speaker 6So look how before we go into this next into this next segment of shit.
Speaker 2I just got to play this because I am a firm believer and everything Pem CC on this shit. We don't, you know, we don't keep it pepper. Oh shit.
Speaker 5We don't keep it positive, we don't you know, we don't keep it, we don't keep working and we don't keep grinding. We don't work, work, work to the Buddhist court. We don't get this pay.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying. That was it? Yeah, no, but this the real one.
Speaker 5You know, families, families, the most important thing, yeah, All of the day. Yeah, and you got to look out for your own and we ain't gonna let nobody snag us off our main frame or take nothing from us and we ain't kissing no ass to be accepted. At the same time, we're gonna lay back, we're gonna be cool, we're not gonna pick nothing. No fights with nobody. We're not gonna run up to no other man. Fights are getting barbed in. No bullshit.
Speaker 2You know I'm saying, and that's my message to the community we are family at the end of the day. You ain't got a kiss, nobody asked to be accepted and you ain't got to be getting in the middle of other people's shit. If it's a fight going on, let it happen. People gonna have disagreements that may lead to blows, as long as there's no guns involved. But the more y'all keep shooting guns in the air trying to break up a fucking fist fight that ain't gonna last longer than five, ten minutes, we gonna keep having problems at the meeting. I'm sick of y'all pussies with guns, cuz I really think y'all pussies If I'm being honest.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're preaching, Well, I got the end of the day, dude. Your family is number one family number one that's. That's what I got out of that, no for sure family number one and at us being the takeover community.
Speaker 2No matter what crew or or whatever you are in the community, we are a family. That's the most important part about this shit. We all come together. The love of cars and the good times. She knew what was going on. The more I drink, the more the hiccups come. It's crazy, but yeah like.
Speaker 4I.
Speaker 2Don't keep. We don't keep politicking and pivoting like I'm. I'm very happy to have y'all come on this motherfucker. I do got one more question, though.
Speaker 4I'm ready. I don't too low key. All right, actually All right, my, my question, I guess, would be we talk a lot about, we talk a lot about taking accountability, yeah, for all this little unsaid beef, all this stupid ass shit when it comes to the car scene, and we talk about how that Kills that whole family part. Right?
Speaker 4Yeah this is a new thing. I'm gonna start calling people out. We finna start here we finish. We always talk about making a difference and starting with that are right. Like Michael Jackson Jackson said, I'm gonna start with the man in the mirror. So that being said, is there any beef? Y'all can squash on the mic right now, anything like I'm talking about. If you know somebody don't fuck with you, let it be known right now. You got no said beef.
Speaker 1I Mean, if somebody got a problem me, I, me personally, I don't care. I mean, it don't affect my that ain't what we asked you. Yeah, do we talk about. If I do, I have beef with somebody.
Speaker 4Is there? Is there somebody you know that dislike you, that you just want to let it be known like amen?
Speaker 2I ain't got no beef with you, I don't care.
Speaker 4I shit.
Speaker 1Dude, I don't know why has somebody told you something?
Speaker 6I don't know Cuz you know, I don't, I don't even talk to my first time actually even laying that shit out right there.
Speaker 4And I just want to start that with saying that me personally, if you got a problem with me, I promise you I don't got a problem with you. If you're in a car scene and you listen to this right now and you think I don't like you, I don't care.
Speaker 4I mean and I'm gonna lay that out there, cuz we talking about taking accountability, right. So if you want to let it be known, let it be known. I ain't got no problem with nobody, because I'm tired of people always trying to have this little unsaid beef Behind fucking people's bags typeshift. They'd be like oh, I don't know, real, don't fuck with me, that's just me saying that. You know I'm saying so if that's not you, then just lay that shit out there, cuz I'm tired of that shit.
Speaker 2Yeah, I so look, so I gotta be a big man here to the end. Yeah, here we go. You know what I'm saying, cuz y'all know I'm big fuck Orlando.
Speaker 1That's crazy Like big fuck Orlando.
Speaker 2But, orlando, I really don't have no real issue with you. I just don't like to sneak this and shit you was doing or trying to do behind behind my back when I was asking you to come on the podcast, and what you feel to realize is that the people you be talking sideways to, they got way more love for me because of the bond we share. These people I've been with, hanging with, for a year straight. When, when shit went bad with them, you was not there, nigga, I was. You know what I'm saying. So, bro, you got a motherfucking Be mindful of who you talking shit to about other people, cuz. Whatever the fuck you say, that shit always come back. And that's why, to this day, nigga, when I see you, jenny got the boxing gloves. We gone box cuz Only, only motherfuckers. I play with that bitch where it is my homies.
Speaker 1Hey, I'll box them for you, bro.
Speaker 2No, I want to box them myself, so he could. So so he could know that I ain't the bitch he thought I was. I really need him to know that. But I have no official beef with you, like I Just don't like you cuz that. That. That back though weird shit. Gay bro, you want to come to my? Gym, bro, we'll get started and you talk shit about a lot of people behind a back Orlando. I Just want that to be clear.
Speaker 4If there's any beef or sense at beef because of with Bobby, that's what I'm gonna put out there.
Speaker 1Oh no, I don't. Personally, I don't give a fuck. I give him props, Okay cool.
Speaker 4So I just want you to lay that out there, cuz I know that there's like just little, you know.
Speaker 1People are talking about shit. That happened two years ago, bro. I'm a fucking. I'm a 20 year old grown man.
Speaker 4What I'm telling you, is to lay that shit out Do you have issues with Bobby.
Speaker 1No, I don't cool that's that. If that's what you meant by the question, no that wasn't what I meant.
Speaker 4I just that was just one of my no, so, like I said, bro.
Speaker 1I for me personally I don't, I don't really care. It's already happened, bro, like it's. It's happened two years ago. Like what really happened? Nothing, you know, we're both living our lives.
Speaker 4That's that rollback exclusive. There is no fucking yeah, Me personally.
Speaker 1I don't care if the kid got a problem with me. It's his problem, not mine. So cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So we got to get Bobby on here to tell his side. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4So we we talk a lot about, like I said, the downfalls of the car community and how there's all this unsaid beef and how we Come 2024 if we want shit to even go better from where it was. We all need to sit here and take accountability for all this stupid ass, little beef. Whether it's true or not, the fact is, it's being said. If we want to change that. If we want to bring the love in the community back, we need to make it know.
Speaker 2No, no, it's all love with Bobby.
Speaker 4It's all love, that's it.
Speaker 1Like me and him. We we had a conversation before already, but like I don't know, I guess shit could be more square at the end of the day, like we could be talking, I guess. But I don't know. Our past really don't really cross anymore, so I personally Haven't really talked to him. I don't got problems with him. I personally I think he's doing good for himself. That's what it looks like. If he's making money, go for it.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly, I really want y'all to shake hands. Y'all got to come on the road back to shake hands.
Speaker 1Yeah, sorry to me, I got no problem.
Speaker 3Mr 345.
Speaker 4I Mean shit whether or not they know, and it could still be about that little bitch.
Speaker 1I'm on that.
Speaker 3Me personally. Now I don't think nobody, but I remember back then talking to the mic. I know definitely back then, when I was in the scene, um, there was a little incident where we're toxic or whatever, but yeah, I had no beef for her. She was cool people, so I mean shit.
Speaker 2Yo beef came from a female.
Speaker 3Happen was I got accused of her getting kicked out her apartment for smoking, but why? I smoked outside, like how she told me. So I'm gonna just leave.
Speaker 4That is that I'm not gonna get too much into depth, yeah so I'm calling y'all out, so I'm from the latest shit out there, cuz a Lot of people know that I don't fuck with Zuzu.
Speaker 1That's my guy.
Speaker 2What's hot?
Speaker 4No no. And I don't and. I'm gonna keep it a buck with y'all and I'm gonna say that this shit was two years ago. I'm taking accountability for my own shit, and I'm gonna put it out there that I Don't have nothing against either y'all Nor. I just really don't care to build a bond with y'all again. But at the end of the day, it's all. It is what it is, and it ain't what it ain't.
Speaker 1I don't care like I don't, hold.
Speaker 4I don't hold shit against either y'all. It's just we had our differences and that's that. That's that we had. Our differences is two years. I'm grown as fuck.
Speaker 4Like Rio said, we too fucking grown to be doing all these lolly gagging, ass, fucking beef and shit, and I'm putting that out there and I'm not when I call people out on this. I'm not even for the say and say here like y'all got to be besties for the resties now. No, I'm just laying it flat out there. Whatever happened happened. Do I care to build a bond with y'all again? No, but I don't hold shit against y'all. It is what it is. I seen the kind of person you was and I just personally don't want to associate myself with those kind of people. But that's okay, because we often are picking, choose who we want to hang around and be around. But I'm laying that shit out there too. It is what it is. I don't hold any Anything against anybody in the car scene, because I know that it was a lot of shit said and I know that a lot of tongues Out here barking and shit, but I don't care.
Speaker 4There's also very weird time, very, and if y'all think, and if y'all think that I as 312 Jenny, I'll talk about back in 2021. If y'all think I had something against y'all, feel free to hit the DMs and let me know so it's crazy, cuz I don't have, I haven't been talking, or around the meat them niggas, they're niggas gonna take that chance tomorrow, fucking shoot.
Speaker 4So if y'all really think I had an issue with y'all, like I said, I'm not coming back out of retirement, but I'm somewhat out here now since I'm on this shit. So if y'all think I have beef with y'all, I'm just let y'all know I don't she coming back out of retirement.
Speaker 2This shit to the legal pit. She gonna be outside.
Speaker 4I don't know what she's talking about and I can merge that but you back outside Taking it to a new level.
Speaker 2We going legitimate and that's the, that's the way it is, like my last conversation with Smurf About the same. He was big fuck outside. We need to go legal and that's and I'm standing 10 toes on that like I might pop out on the 25th for the women against domestic violence Meat and there's no, no shade to snow in. They meet, but they should came up second Like they should have never dropped that.
Speaker 3They both should see you. Hopefully the swap done by the time.
Speaker 1Personally, I don't think I'd ever be back. But like I don't, I do shit like this. I like shit like this. You know I'm saying, yeah, more of like behind the scenes kind of stuff. Like I'll design shit for people, I'll do all that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying. But I don't think I'd ever be as outside as a host as as 312 real. I don't think I'll ever be back outside like that again understood.
Speaker 1But yeah, it was good memories, a good time, good learning experience for sure it was, it was fun. It was fun while last, but you know, a lot of shit don't last hey.
Speaker 2Jenny, I got a beef with you, though. Gee like how the fuck we in this bitch together. You op is here. Sometimes, jenny be getting op outside Putting me in wild predicaments. Oh, he is here, we're not gonna talk about that we can talk about it.
Speaker 4You want to pull it up on the mic? What's up?
Speaker 2No. You want to you want me to put you on blast.
Speaker 4I will cut your mic, y'all see they try to call me out, but I want to talk about it.
Speaker 2Hey, I'm still. I'm still straddling the fence here like don't do that to me, I'm just playing, I love you.
Speaker 1Actually, I'm gonna ask some questions, you know. I go here as an og I'm asking questions so, in your opinion, cuz I I'm not gonna lie, I don't really remember you when, like, we were first, first starting.
Speaker 3I remember when, like Poseidon and shit was coming. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, so like in your opinion, what's like?
Speaker 1what's your biggest upscale and decrease of the car scene?
Speaker 2the. I missed the love bro. No bullshit. I don't like the state that is in now. I'm very disappointed, like even though I keep hearing that 2021 was better than 22.
Speaker 3Fona. Definitely shut up, jenny.
Speaker 2That's why we beefing that for real.
Speaker 1Hey nobody remembers 2020, though 2020.
Speaker 4Oh, gee thing that I was not a part of yeah, I just was.
Speaker 2I just just I didn't know that y'all was going other places. I just pulled up on 87th Street and never said nothing about nobody. You know what I'm saying 87th was down the street from my crib I was. That's how to meet used to be, Drinking, just chilling, and y'all would leave and cops would come and I would go home or go to a bitch house or Whatever the fuck I was doing.
Speaker 4To the liquor store.
Speaker 2We finna go to the liquor store. We finna go to the liquor store.
Speaker 3I got a question for y'all what's y'all drink of choice?
Speaker 2What the fuck when I was at the meets, I was drinking John Basil tequila. It's a black on tequila. They from Chicago. It's black owned and operated man. I had the pleasure of hosting One of. They Vince this year like doing flowers in the pieces for them and they bottles. It was fucking raw as fuck.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying like I'm probably gonna hit you up. I think I got my cousin got a wedding coming up. Get you some flowers done. I got you. Oh yeah, I'm gonna tee y'all up and what's it called.
Speaker 4I actually my mom's birthday is coming up too, so that's something hey man, if you're not shopping with your foot for your flowers from the hood floors, what the fuck is you doing?
Speaker 2Oh god.
Speaker 3Oh, so I don't have a drinker choice.
Speaker 4Low key. If I'm drinking, I'm drinking to get fucked up and I'm gonna take whatever the fuck you Hand me, though, but I will say I think you're ultra.
Speaker 2Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 6No, I stick to tequila though, but maybe that's maybe a lot.
Speaker 4I think I don't drink that, henny, though. Get stayed a fuck away from me with a henny, the do say and the remi that's, that's a Chicago.
Speaker 1She makes me crazy. That shit is nasty If y'all hand me some honey.
Speaker 4It better be that vsop.
Speaker 1There's this one time that me and this kid, we were so fucked up, oh my god, oh my god, so I was drinking, uh, some vodka, playing 2k at the time for some reason you're fucking vodka. Love it, love it, so I would. I said there I took down about I'd say 45 percent of this bottle Fucked up. They want to go to the golf arrange. So I'm like, fuck it, let's go here, let's go.
Speaker 3Yeah right, I never thought I'd be golfing in my life I've never been golfing. Oh, that shit is hey.
Speaker 1You just send balls, fucking just crazy to send them.
Speaker 4So swing that I've been a top golf.
Speaker 3Yeah they just like top golf, it's kind of like top golf, but this one was more like golfy.
Speaker 2I've been. I've been golfing. My Italian uncle used to make hell. Yeah, that's all they do, I. It was funny because his resting piece, my granddaddy um, I was technically his ball boy. Pause, that sounds terrible, pause. His caddy was his what this ball boy scaredy pause. No it just sounds so much foul saying ball boy I just said that in your head pause. No, I gotta say it out loud, because it came right out.
Speaker 2It came from my head to my mouth, like I didn't I I know the professional term, but like Do you imagine running around I'm a little black kid with a full blooded Italian man that Grew up in the area error with they don't like niggas and I'm his grandson? Like do you know how strange that was.
Speaker 3Yeah right, Definitely for sure. So oh boy he felt like well, like the black sheep, oh like, so I'm not gonna lie, brought this kid to uh rick of benny's one time. No, this, this is insane.
Speaker 1So I don't know what the fuck was going on, but somebody definitely had their family in or something. It was like two big Italian families and it was this big guy in a suit like dude. This guy was big.
Speaker 3I'm talking about if, when they tell you the Italian mob boss adidas.
Speaker 1Like that's what you picture in your head right there. That's exactly what the fun I bumped right into him.
Speaker 3He just stared me down, crazy.
Speaker 1And you know how bridgeport is, bro. Yes, so I was just like bro, sit down, just sit down, eat your food, don't worry about it. Sit down.
Speaker 3Well, I thought I was about it. It was the end of me, man, I swear to God.
Speaker 1I love you Bro.
Speaker 2Yes, real shit, bro. It might have been the end of you probably 20 years ago 100%.
Speaker 1you would have been a sewer. I'm sorry you would have been a story. That's crazy, because imagine I, I.
Speaker 2My father used to take me to rick of benny's and he used to tell me as a shorty, like a Stay close to me, because they used to hang out in there, prevalent, like super duper, prevalent.
Speaker 1That's all the pictures on the wall.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3That was. That was definitely some scary shit. For show that dad like they, they got their intimidation on lock. For show that shit was not it.
Speaker 2That's why I'm that's like.
Speaker 3I ain't my pizza so fast.
Speaker 1Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2Do y'all remember like, like, having more fucking, like cryo control at the meets and shit?
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean remember, I remember Jenny, dude, there was this time we went to a spot, bro, we were all facing one way and it was a one way street. Bro, it was there is no way out unless you, unless you did a fucking U-turn.
Speaker 4That was the only way out of this place. That was at the Minnesota versus Chicago.
Speaker 1She looked like bro, you give her two of those big fucking traffic cone like light thing you have on the airport, bro, and gave her like headphones. She could have worked that midway. I swear to God it was not.
Speaker 3Dude that she was insane.
Speaker 1She made at least 50 people bust the U-turn.
Speaker 4No, I merged that day. I didn't even know what the fuck I was doing. All I know is the Minnesota versus Chicago car meet. We hit this tiny ass low. We was like why? The fuck is we here? It's a one way, but we got cars coming from both sides, so now we just trapped.
Speaker 5Oh it was the skinny ass street. We got, yeah, by the railroad.
Speaker 4So we had like 200 cars coming one way, 200 on the other side and we was stuck facing each other. I was like God damn, we got to get the fuck out of here, but we can't.
Speaker 1That was the best crowd control I've seen.
Speaker 4We can't Gee. They gave me a megaphone. I went to the front of one side. I said I need all y'all to bust the? U and get the fuck out of here. I said hey, y'all better throw that bitch.
Speaker 4No, that ass was what the fuck I was saying. I was like y'all need to bust that bitch, put that bitch in reverse and go. I said you can't put that bitch in reverse. Stay ass at the crib, dog. And I was like I was getting on. Everybody asked I said you got a truck, nigga. Go over that fucking curve and go, come on Like what is you doing?
Speaker 2I got a question. I got a question for y'all. Bro, watch out.
Speaker 3Stop it, bro. What's the problem, too? It's his podcast.
Speaker 2Watch out, I'm just resting on the back of the goddamn chair.
Speaker 4No, it's just touching my back and I don't like it.
Speaker 2OK, well, lean forward, no, I mean lean backward, Fuck.
Speaker 3Go ahead, real, take this last shot.
Speaker 2Damn. And this bitch arms tight as hell.
Speaker 4Better put that shit up to the right I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 2What was I?
Speaker 4saying you said I got a question for y'all.
Speaker 3Definitely had a question for you. We was talking about crowd control and he started arguing and I started arguing oh yeah, it ain't a rollback podcast if we don't argue, if we don't argue yeah, it ain't a rollback show podcast if we don't argue.
Speaker 4I ain't going to tell you.
Speaker 2This is every day with us.
Speaker 4Dude, I'm fucking tired, sick and tired of being around this. I like this, it's sick bro.
Speaker 1I've been on a podcast.
Speaker 2You too, motherfucker.
Speaker 4Shut the fuck up, because I tried quitting and you told me no.
Speaker 2You can't fucking quit. You got the knowledge in your head, motherfucker.
Speaker 4Right, but you sick and tired of me.
Speaker 2Shut up If it wasn't for the knowledge, you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 4Well then, because what the?
Speaker 2fuck are you here, for I'm lying, I'm lying. I love you, jenny.
Speaker 3Love hurts, love hurts.
Speaker 2I met you through my boy Smurfio, and you've been a valuable asset so far so far, yeah, so far that has to be the nicest thing you ever said to me.
Speaker 4That has to be the nicest thing you ever said to me, but I'm going to respond with a big fuck you.
Speaker 2It's always fucking because it's fuck you too.
Speaker 4Fuck, hood, fuck, hood, fuck en florista del barrio.
Speaker 2Like gee. We argue like motherfucking brother and sisters for real.
Speaker 4Except I actually love my brother.
Speaker 2Yeah, you don't love me, it's OK. I love the whole floor. I made that known. That's my guy.
Speaker 4That's OK. Go help him with these bouquets at fucking 10 in the morning when you hung the fuck over, please and thank you because. I'm tired.
Speaker 3As long as I get my roasts.
Speaker 1Where's your studio? At that's around the block.
Speaker 2Oh, dude, yeah my shop when I get fucked up.
Speaker 1I'm buying 30 second of Paranel. Let me know, say less.
Speaker 4I'm always right here, but you better be good at making him, because he's going to cuss you out if you fucking. If you break a rose, he's going to yell at you. If you're going to fire you out.
Speaker 1I can put up drywall and shit. Bro, Do you need like work?
Speaker 4done. He's a fucking florist.
Speaker 1What the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 6Hey, if you need pain, I can help you, pain All right, if you need a demolition man, call me.
Speaker 2I will knock down some walls. Hell yeah, let me know that's therapeutic.
Speaker 1Actually me and my boy are about to start doing that too.
Speaker 4This is a demolition. Yeah, we're OK. What's your question?
Speaker 1Yeah, what is your question?
Speaker 4Yeah, you never ask your question.
Speaker 2Because I lost my train of thought. I'm fucked up, cool.
Speaker 4Y'all look, he had hella questions for us. Y'all got any more questions?
Speaker 1I mean shit. Just because like you definitely have a different view of the scene than I do, because it was like different times. You two, I would do that. Like I said, I've been here since like we were going from fucking white castles to lower wacker to like I forgot what the other spot was. Lower wacker was the other spot. There was one more spot we used to hit bro, Whole Foods, Whole Foods, Whole Foods, yep, Whole Foods. And then it was Swaparama was these no.
Speaker 1Lomis. Lomis has always been a racing spot, forever, yeah Forever.
Speaker 4I almost spun out the chalier.
Speaker 1And then once somebody got hit on the corner, like the side, it was done Like my dad. My dad used to say they race in the back of the yards 43rd and Morgan.
Speaker 4Yeah, but we wasn't trying to get shot.
Speaker 1Yeah, no 100%, but like, like the shit's been around, They've been doing this shit bro.
Speaker 4Thanks because we know, but like no, like people didn't even know, and he would get into hell with the hell of folks.
Speaker 2I was telling motherfuckers not to drop lows on the East Side and the very first time they drop a low on 79th and Stony Allen somebody gets shot.
Speaker 1Hey, I went to school at Mount Carmel. You know what Mount Carmel is? Yes, I do. Yeah. I went to school right over there. I know how it goes.
Speaker 5I fucking love Smurf, bro Smurf would cuss y'all the fuck out for dropping lows at the back of the yards, and then he would call the cops before y'all got to that low.
Speaker 4Shout out to Smurf.
Speaker 2That's funny, you see.
Speaker 4Because he was not playing with that shit. He was like I'm not going to be the reason that y'all get shot. And I said period, and I love that. And I always stood by Smurf when he said I ain't no shit about the back of the yards, but if Smurf said don't go there, I'm not going to go there, fuck. And he would literally call the cops on the lows when he was in the Patriots' yard.
Speaker 2Y'all going to give me the back of the yards for water and he would cuss y'all, he would cuss you out.
Speaker 4Why the fuck you?
Speaker 1dropped so far off man, I didn't even drop that motherfucker.
Speaker 2Hey so look Bro.
Speaker 4What's the question?
Speaker 2I don't remember that question, but I got another question.
Speaker 4Wait, he had a question.
Speaker 2May know, you guys keep going. I'm heard. Wait, you got a question.
Speaker 1No, you keep going what you got it.
Speaker 3You got it, you got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. I got a question after I got a question after Go ahead.
Speaker 4No, no, no.
Speaker 2Go ahead.
Speaker 3What made you want to start this podcast? Like what was your thought about, Like what's your reason?
Speaker 2Man, the lack of education bro.
Speaker 1Oh, you want to learn more, true.
Speaker 2No, no, no, Not me learning more, but, like for the new generation, there's nobody telling them what this shit was like. It's so underground.
Speaker 1They don't have shit to compare it to Dude before, nothing was on Snapchat, it was all on Facebook, like if you didn't have Facebook, you weren't coming to the meets. Basically Everybody had like the.
Speaker 3Facebook group messages and shit.
Speaker 1And that's what I was. It was just a lot harder.
Speaker 4And that's what I was telling Hood low-key, because we always butt heads, because he always tells me that the love was in 2022. And I was like, yeah, I'm not denying that it was in 2022. I said that, me personally, I just felt like the love decreases every year. So his form, like his form of the car scene love could have been great. Because I can't, I'm not going to sit here and tell him his opinion isn't valid. I'm lying like I'm going to fuck you. I tell you that shit all the time.
Speaker 2But I'm going to respect it right now. I love you for that, thank you. I'm going to respect the fact that you're 22. I'll be ready to fight you. Shut up, yeah, butt you.
Speaker 4Shut the fuck up, for I'll take it back.
Speaker 2So you're 20.
Speaker 4That's crazy. Dude, that big ass head of, knock me the fuck out. Put her in the coffin, but your 22 experience was equivalent to my 21 experience.
Speaker 2No, that's.
Speaker 4But your 23 experience, how you think that shit? That was my 22.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying? 23 is like shit 22. No no, no 2023 is a shit show.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like 22 was not a shit show 22 was a shit show in my mind it was minus minus minus.
Speaker 1So it was a shit show because I'm going to hand it to you. It was a show inside. Outside it was fire. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2And behind the fucking when, the when, the, when the cars wasn't swinging and all that shit. Yes, it was a shit show. And amongst the hierarchy yes, it was a shit show, but as far as like actually being outside, outside was fucking lit and nigga show love after they was calling each other bitches in the group chat, exactly so.
Speaker 1I don't know. I just think it was just like cloud. It was just cloud chasing, People got their cloud and at the end of the day everybody just was cool again.
Speaker 2Oh, I do remember my question how do y'all feel about unknown driver given the police? Hell, what the fuck, that's my guy bro my nigga got a wheel.
Speaker 1So, so here you want to hear something Nautz, yeah. The day I crashed my BMW, he was right behind me. Yeah, yeah, and this is before he was unknown driver. Yeah, yeah. So you know, yeah, I know my boy before he was, he was big dog Him.
Speaker 4That's his son.
Speaker 2Him. That's big dog, that's. That's one of my sons. Tay was my first son.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's my guy. I fuck with him, dude. I mean when we were in Texas, that was my guy. I mean we've been texting for a minute. That's my. Yeah, it's my guy, dude. I mean I don't know, I'm not going to say too much about him because you know he does some crazy fucking shit. He does crazy.
Speaker 2So I got to watch what I say, but it's fun. I'm just saying, like, as far as him actually given the police, that's just lit.
Speaker 1That's just fucking lit, bro. I'm all for it, me too.
Speaker 4Somebody got to do it, and it ain't fun to be me, I could tell you all that, I mean who else is doing it like him? That's what I'm saying. Somebody's been doing it, and when he was in his prime.
Speaker 1He was in his fucking prime. He was taking shit.
Speaker 4Props for having me.
Speaker 2He's still in his prime, though, like sure. He just don't record as much.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's good, though I don't know. I don't know how he was doing what he was doing. Dude, like it would be a new video every day.
Speaker 2You want to know how he was doing what he's doing. He had hella practice and shit that wasn't fucking high speed ready prior to him getting shit that was high speed ready. Like if you knew him before he was UKD, you knew he didn't have nothing. V8, nothing.
Speaker 1Nothing bro, he was just, he was just him, he was just him.
Speaker 2He was just him, lolo, enjoying the meets. But if 12 got behind him, smurf took him on his first high speed. Well, I'm not going to say his first high speed.
Speaker 1I remember I was in the highest speed when I was on probation. I just got like it was like two weeks once I got out of Lake County and they were fucking. My boys were like hop in, hop in Because my boys.
Speaker 2They snatched Smurf up in Lake County I think.
Speaker 1Dude Lake County's on bulls shit.
Speaker 3UKD picked him up from jail.
Speaker 1Yeah, but fucking. I remember we were in a Honda and we got away from CPD. It was nuts. But I had to say that was funny.
Speaker 4I remember one time we was in the BMW and we was living this one low, we had like 12 cops behind us.
Speaker 1Oh, my god dude, you remember that I was like I'm like real go, real go. Hitting speed bumps at fucking 70, bro, she was crazy.
Speaker 6I remember that shit we had at least like half the fucking unit on our ass.
Speaker 4That shit was crazy, though I don't even know what the fuck happened. But any more questions on y'all part for us.
Speaker 1I got one for the florist and you, I got one for both of you Go ahead. How did you guys get involved? Like, what like sparked you guys to be like yo, let me get lit with this shit. Like let me pop out and start coming. Yeah Well, takeover. Specifically because there were so many different groups of car meets. Like, why did you guys come to take over? I?
Speaker 4talked about this once, I think once, and it's hilarious. I was living in Indiana, two and a half hours out into New York I'm not talking about him, right and I was scrolling through TikTok one day at work on a Friday, I seen a TikTok by Illinois car meets actually Z, right, I saw a fucking TikTok that Z had posted about Lower Whacker and everybody running once 12 came type shit, bada, bing, bada, boom. Literally not even an hour later I was in a discord. Just like that. Just like that. I'm a common federal and a detective, but just like that. I was in a discord and next thing, you know, they dropping lows.
Conflict Over Scheduling a Meet
Speaker 4And this was in January of 2021. In January, I told my homeboy, I said amen, I said come to this car meet with me in Chicago today. He goes a car meet in the winter and I said yeah, he's looking at me like I'm fucking crazy. And I was like man, look, I just been wanting to get into cars. There's not really a car scene out here. I'm from the cornfields, we don't do shit out there. And so I was like hey, I just, you know, I'm intrigued, I want to see what the fuck it is Like. You know, I just want to. I want to see that, I want to be hooked. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I feel like this will hook me.
Speaker 4You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I just want to see what the fuck it is. Hold on Two seconds.
Speaker 4One, two.
Speaker 2No, no, no. This, this, this real, and it's going live and I'm going to bug the fuck up.
Speaker 6Follow me, you pick up, go up there. You gotta come in if you wanna好啦, hey you, you guys are hang in there Put your hands up dude.
Speaker 2You can be a hott tofu because it is super easy you gotta walk one step closer to yourangry. Nobody benefited your country, did you think? Here it it's a radio. Yeah, fuck you. 450目, fuck you. There we go, the hood floors outside, we outside nigga, motherfucking dog town, outside nigga. We got our own swingers and everything. Nigga. Fuck, fuck, fuck that other shit man, all right no disrespect to Palestine or none of that shit, but they better pick another day, man, on my kids they was not first.
Speaker 2No, bro, I'm not trying to hear, bro, when I, after I get off the phone with you, I'm calling dog town, the meat steel bussines. We not competing with nobody, this odd shit. That was the day we chose and that's our day, and I'm definitely gonna get on snow ass. You gonna cancel your meat. Fuck. Is you tongue out? We ain't canceling shit.
Speaker 1Standing on business.
Speaker 2Standing on motherfucking business hey hey, that shit just hurt my heart to see you tongue out you canceling my nigga and y'all shit was first, don't let them motherfuckers punk you. That's the type of shit snow do she playing dates on shit where she see other niggas have emotion so she could be in control. We ain't letting that shit slide. Nigga, fuck, is you talking about Dog town? Backed at me, bro, he what.
Speaker 5He backed at me how he dropped out and he's going with snow.
Speaker 2I bet you, I bet you it's gonna be backbusting when I'm after I get off the phone with you. Don't worry about it, I'm gonna call you back. Thanks for telling me.
Speaker 4Hey, man and that comes with the respect for other hosts man, like y'all can't be doing that shit. Y'all can't be trying to host fucking me on days that other crews already got a meet on.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying Like y'all gotta respect that shit. We on the rollback show, we rolling out and this bitch dropping Friday. Fuck, is you talking about?
Speaker 3That's what I like to see. I like to see baby.
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